Sunday, December 09, 2012

Your Current 2013 Philadelphia Phillies


Lineup:
1. Ben Revere/CF
2. Michael Young/3B
3. Chase Utley/2B
4. Ryan Howard/1B
5. Carlos Ruiz/C
6. Jimmy Rollins/SS
7. John Mayberry/RF
8. Domonic Brown/LF

Bench:
Erik Kratz/C, Kevin Frandsen/UTL, Freddy Galvis/UTL, Darin Ruf/OF/1B, and Laynce Nix/OF.

*Humberto Quintero will serve as 2nd catcher while Chooch serves 25-game suspension.

*Nix and Ruf would likely platoon with Mayberry and Brown.

Rotation:
1. Cole Hamels
2. Roy Halladay
3. Cliff Lee
4. Kyle Kendrick
5. Tyler Cloyd

Bullpen:
Jonathan Papelbon, Antonio Bastardo, Phillippe Aumont, Jeremy Horst, Just DeFratus, Michael Stutes, and Raul Valdes.

Thoughts:
The Phillies selected speedy outfielder Ender Inciarte in the Rule 5 draft, but he's not played above Single-A, so him making the 25-man roster is an extreme long shot.  The lineup is void of power aside from Howard, unless Ruf is able to continue working his magic into next season.  Amaro is still searching for a set-up man, corner outfielder, and now possibly a back of the rotation pitcher.

Power on the free agent market doesn't really exist outside of Josh Hamilton and Nick Swisher.  Each will be expensive and that's something that Amaro might not be able to do.  Reliable 8th inning relievers have been snatched up already, with only Mike Adams remaining, and he's coming off of surgery.

Rotation options aren't that enticing either because of the price they'll cost.  Edwin Jackson, Anibal Sanchez, Ryan Dempster, Kyle Lohse, and Shaun Marcum are the big names remaining and likely out of the Phils price range.  After all, far less SP like Jeremy Guthrie (3 YR/$25M) and Joe Blanton (2 YR/$15M) stuck gold.

Jair Jurrjens, Chris Young, or Jeff Karstens would be worth a 1 year investment on a low base salary with innings pitched incentives to challenge Cloyd for the 5th spot in the rotation.

Jon Rauch, Matt Capps, LaTroy Hawkins, Matt Lindstrom, Brandon Lyon, Chad Durbin, and Scott Atchinson are free agent relievers that might be worth a 1 year deal on a low base salary with incentives for appearances (because that would mean they were good enough to stick around and be used, unlike Chad Qualls).

As you can see, Ruben still has work to do.

42 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jimmy will hit leadoff, with Revere 2nd. You DO realize that Charlie is still mgr, right?

Rich Baxter said...

Let's put Ruf out there in left, and give him his chance to shine.

I don't know about you, but I think I've already seen enough of Dom Brown.

Bob D said...

If Ruf is on team he will start most of the time. Cloyd will not likely be the fifth starter. If Incarne is not ready then lets not have a Michael Martinez repeat...but this is the Phils. I agree Manual will likely keep Rollins in leadoff with Revere as an option if Jroll faulters.

GM-Carson said...

Remember Rollins didn't bat leafoff at the beginning of the season, Vic did.

I agree on Brown, complete overhype.

Chase Trillo said...

The line-up really needs Hamilton. Overpay if you must, but only on a 3-year deal.

An interesting name for the pen that not many have been talking about is Matt Lindstrom. He has an above average arm and has both set-up and closing experience.

As for the starting pitchers you listed, I would definitely gamble on Jurrjens or Karstens. While I do like Young, I think I'd pass with his inability to stay healthy (for multiple years now).

Finally, the Phils should avoid Lannan at all costs!

GM-Carson said...

Lannan would find a way to injure one of his teammates if he was with the Phillies.

GM-Carson said...

The Dodgers have something like 8 starting pitchers under contract. They are spending money like crazy. Maybe Amaro should target Chris Capuano.

SirAlden said...

Hamilton in RF, Add a 4th/5th Starter, An 8th Inning Reliever, and your done.

Lineup:
1. Ben Revere/CF
2. Jimmy Rollins/SS
3. Chase Utley/2B
4. Josh Hamilton/RF
5. Ryan Howard/1B
6. Michael Young/3B
7. Carlos Ruiz/C
8. Domonic Brown/LF

Bench:
Darin Ruf/OF/1B, Laynce Nix/OF,
Ender Inciarte OF, Freddy Galvis/UTL,
Erik Kratz/C

Kevin Frandsen/UTL, John Mayberry OF

*Humberto Quintero will serve as 2nd catcher while Chooch serves 25-game suspension.

Rotation:
1. Cole Hamels
2. Roy Halladay
3. Cliff Lee
4. 4th Starter Signed
5. Tyler Cloyd

Bullpen:
Jonathan Papelbon, Signed 8th Inning Reliever, Antonio Bastardo, Phillippe Aumont, Jeremy Horst, Just DeFratus, Michael Stutes, Kyle Kendrick. (One arm will start in the Minors)

SirAlden said...

Not Too Shabby.

Beer-a-Thon said...

KK has done fine in the 4th/5th spot of the rotation. He will be fine in the backend. It's Cloyd that worries me, because going with both him and KK in the rotation is a huge gamble for a team with playoff aspirations.

Hamilton is a game changer. He will be expensive and comes with baggage. Personally, I'm not a fan. However, I'll root for him if he makes this team better, much the same as I did with Brett Myers. Didn't like Myers and probably won't ever like Hamilton either.

Beer-a-Thon said...

From ESPN:
Over the last four seasons, Young has -35 Defensive Runs Saved (a stat that measures the effectiveness of turning batted balls into outs, defending bunts, and converting double plays) at third base.

That is the third-worst among the 52 third baseman with at least 1,000 innings played in that span.

The next Phillies priority could be for a power bat. Their two notable offseason position-player acquisitions- Ben Revere and Young- ranked worst and seventh-worst in extra-bases per at-bat (a stat also known as “Isolated Power”) last season.

SirAlden said...

"David Bell? Anyone?"

SirAlden said...

"Pedro Feliz? Anyone?"

SirAlden said...

"David Hollister Second Time Around? Anyone?"

SirAlden said...

"Ty Wiggy? Anyone?"

Anonymous said...

And now Sir Alden wants Cloyd over Kendrick.

Right.

Aaron said...

Why are all of you putting Ruf on our bench? The dude is gonna be our starting LF and hit 30 bombs this year.
The guy has hit for avg. and power at every level including his cup o coffee in the Majors.

GM-Carson said...

Aaron- I'd love to see Ruf put up something like .275/.800 with 20 HR 80 RBI, but with Manuel managing I just don't see it.

ryan bahm said...

this lineup will struggle to score 2 runs a game utley and howard have been in a tailspin for 4 years it has nothing to do with injuries

SirAlden said...

Kendrick as the Long Man where he belongs and Brown/Ruf in LF.

Anonymous said...

Kendrick belongs in the rotation.

GM-Carson said...

Cubs wanted Dom Brown for Soriano and were only going to kick in $10M of the $36M left on his contract.

No thanks! Eff u Epstine!

Chase Trillo said...

Talk about a proposed shit deal. No thanks whatsoever on Soriano, unless it is Rafael Soriano. Otherwise, forget it!

Beer-a-Thon said...

Apparently the Phillies only have $20M left to spend this offseason. They still need a reliever, starting pitcher, and outfielder.

Hmmm...me thinks Howard's stupid/retarded/dumb contract is prohibiting them from truly making this team better.

SirAlden said...

Yes the Cubs were 10 million short.

Reverend Paul Revere said...

Anyone else really enticed by Jurrjens? I think he's the guys the Phils should target. He's only 26, and while he was injured and sucked last season, he was awesome the year before and has been pretty good most of his career. Three really solid seasons under his belt & only 26.

Then again, the most recent history is of injuries and an ERA over 6.00, so there's that.

Anonymous said...

Jurrjens would be my choice as well.

Rumor has it that the Phils have put forth a 3-yr deal for Hamilton.

Beer-a-Thon said...

Jurrjens is my choice too. 1 YR $1M with tons of incentives for starts/IP.

Looking at the current lineup, and I think we need Hamilton, or this is a 3rd place team...again.

Beer-a-Thon said...

Apparently the Phils are still hard after Ichiro.

Why?

He's old and is no longer good.

That would be the weakest and worst outfield in the Majors next season if they signed him.

Beer-a-Thon said...

Dodgers designated Scott Van Slyke for assignment. The dude has hit all through the minors...go pick him up Rube.

Plus, he's Andy Van Slyke's kid!

Bob D said...

Van Slyke would be a decent prospect.

I was concerned with getting another lefty into lineup, but if its Hamilton thats ok as he can hit lefties too.

I dont want the Phils to give up a first round pick, but he is likely the one player I would be ok with.

SirAlden said...

Hamilton gone. Swisher anyone? 22 HR Switch Hitter scrappy. Batting 5th works for me.

1. Ben Revere/CF - L
2. Jimmy Rollins/SS - S
3. Chase Utley/2B - L
4. Ryan Howard/1B - L
5. Nick Swisher/RF - S
6. Michael Young/3B - R
7. Carlos Ruiz/C - R
8. Brown/Ruff LF - LR

SirAlden said...

Not a Dead Bottom of the Line-up.

Certainly would have gotten a Wild Card Spot last year.

GM-Carson said...

Nick Swisher would be nice, but I expect Ruin Tomorrow Jr sign Hairston or trade for Soriano...bleh.

AARON said...

5 years and 125 mil is more than i would have paid Hamilton. So glad Rube didn't go there.

Please Please Please NO SORIANO!!!!!

Swisher or Ross. I prefer Swisher but Ross wouldn't be bad. He gets a lot of extra base hits and can play both corner outfield spots. You could play Ruf in left and Ross can play either left or right depending on how well Dom Brown and Ruf are performing you can decide which side of the field to start Ross.
He wouldn't be too expensive thus making him trade able down the road if need be.

Chase Trillo said...

I will puke repeatedly if the Phils sign Lannan or trade for Soriano...

The team needs Swisher or Cuddyer at this point. Ross doesn't do much for me.

Ben said...

Swisher is fine by me. Ross is fine by me. Get it done, RAJ.

What is it with Los Angeles teams hemorrhaging cash on terrible deals? Every single major deal those clubs have made in the past two seasons has been abysmal. I think the Angels at least will get a division championship or two for their efforts before they start paying Pujols and Hamilton 50 million a year to decline. The Dodgers won't even do that as their goods are already damaged, and the Giants will be harder to overtake than the Rangers/A's.

Beer-a-Thon said...

Hell no on Ross. Look at his stats and his age. He's not worth it unless it's 2 YR/$10M, but it will be well north of that.

And Hamilton getting 5 YR/$125M...hmmm...just like Howard's deal. Hamilton is by far a superior player to Howard, yet they have identical contracts. Bullshit.

Beer-a-Thon said...

Amaro offered Ichiro 2 YR/$14M. Thank God he's turning it down.

Amaro has lost his fucking mind.

Aaron said...

The Ichiro offer makes no F'ing sense........seriously what the F is Rube thinking??
He old, can't hit anymore and has zero power in a position where what we need the most in power.
And two years??? That offer scares me because now I think Rube really has no plan...or if he does have a plan it's a shitty one.
Go get Swisher. Go get Adams go get Marcum or Jurgens.....Done.

Chase Trillo said...

Swisher (4 years, 15 per), Adams (3 years, 4 mil per), Lindstrom (2 years, 3 mil per year), and Jurrjens (1 year, 3 mil). Call it an off-season.

GM-Carson said...

Ty Wiggy just got 2 YR/$5M for the Cards. WTF?!

Annibal Sanchez 5 YR/$75M for Cubs. Dude isn't even that good. He's decent, but that that much.