Oh, and I would take first baseman Pete Rose over Ryan the K because at least Rose would be in the clubhouse kickin the asses of those underachievers that took the field starting right after Labor Day.
Carson. Really? I need a definition of great. I know you poke at Howards contract and not sure if your comment was tounge in cheek, but what is great? Pete Rose was great, perhaps one of the truest players in the game. And he played first place for the Phillies. Where does he stand on those charts?
Rose played in Philly for 5 years, batting over .325 twice with an OBP over .390 twice. He was a great, great player - one of the altime best in the game. However, the vast majority of his accomplishments can in a Reds uni, therefore Howard gets the nod in my book as the greatest firstbasemen in Phillies history.
In eight years - six full seasons - Howard has hit over .300 just once, but has had an OBP over .390 twice. His lowest full-season RBI total came during an injury shortened 2010 in which he drove in a mere 108.
While it does appear that Howard's skill set was in decline this season even in advance of a potentially career altering achilles injury, his contributions to the franchise are undeniable.
I think most of you know I defend Howard on a pretty regular basis. It's not always easy because his faults are pretty glaring and his contract provides him with a large bullseye. The man has hit 286 home runs and driven in 864 runs in 8 seasons of play. Despite sharply lower numbers during the past two seasons, his career OPS is still a lusty .928.
I take the point of Howard fans...and god knows I wish he would be in MVP form again. But he hasn't and hasn't been for years now. All the numbers are in the wrong direction, except fielding. And the $25m is utterly unjustified, and fuels the Howard-bashing no doubt. Rose was a leader and fulfilled his role, with the performance expected of him. And he got others to play better too. Howard does none of that anymore, and one can easily say that he fulfilled his role only a couple of years as a MLB player. That's why I say he is symbolic of the futility of the Phils for three years running now. And the high calibre of Rose's performance, even tho he too only got one ring in Philly, outshines Howard.
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overpaid and overrated.
a player the Phillies could do without.
a complex case.
slow, and about to be slower.
Really good a striking out while still managing to get paid for it.
constantly striking out on low and away curveballs.
the best first basemen in Phillies history.
Poster child for futility and failure to come through in the clutch.
Oh, and I would take first baseman Pete Rose over Ryan the K because at least Rose would be in the clubhouse kickin the asses of those underachievers that took the field starting right after Labor Day.
a blockhead
Carson. Really? I need a definition of great. I know you poke at Howards contract and not sure if your comment was tounge in cheek, but what is great? Pete Rose was great, perhaps one of the truest players in the game. And he played first place for the Phillies. Where does he stand on those charts?
my apologies to Randy whose comment I completely overlooked, but the same applies.
Howard has the most homeruns and RBI, and likely the best OPS over an extended period.
Rose played in Philly for 5 years, batting over .325 twice with an OBP over .390 twice. He was a great, great player - one of the altime best in the game. However, the vast majority of his accomplishments can in a Reds uni, therefore Howard gets the nod in my book as the greatest firstbasemen in Phillies history.
In eight years - six full seasons - Howard has hit over .300 just once, but has had an OBP over .390 twice. His lowest full-season RBI total came during an injury shortened 2010 in which he drove in a mere 108.
While it does appear that Howard's skill set was in decline this season even in advance of a potentially career altering achilles injury, his contributions to the franchise are undeniable.
I think most of you know I defend Howard on a pretty regular basis. It's not always easy because his faults are pretty glaring and his contract provides him with a large bullseye. The man has hit 286 home runs and driven in 864 runs in 8 seasons of play. Despite sharply lower numbers during the past two seasons, his career OPS is still a lusty .928.
SAID
awesome. hope he heals fast!
injured
darker on the outside
Incapable of learning the strike zone.
Like an ox: strong and dumb.
Damn, you guys are like Eminem and Lil' Wayne giving Howard no love.
hung like carson
I take the point of Howard fans...and god knows I wish he would be in MVP form again. But he hasn't and hasn't been for years now. All the numbers are in the wrong direction, except fielding. And the $25m is utterly unjustified, and fuels the Howard-bashing no doubt. Rose was a leader and fulfilled his role, with the performance expected of him. And he got others to play better too. Howard does none of that anymore, and one can easily say that he fulfilled his role only a couple of years as a MLB player. That's why I say he is symbolic of the futility of the Phils for three years running now. And the high calibre of Rose's performance, even tho he too only got one ring in Philly, outshines Howard.
going ballistic in 2011.
2011? Huh?
oops ... how about trade bait for Tulo???
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