Wednesday, August 19, 2009

Moyer to the Rescue

Career win #257 was a special one for Jamie Moyer. Grand Pappy came on in relief of Pedro Martinez (the man who took his place in the rotation) after a 1 hour rain delay in the 4th inning. Nobody knew what to expect from the grizzled 46 year year old veteran, not even himself, but the results were astounding. He gave up a single to the first batter, but that was pretty much the extent of what Arizona got off of him. Moyer went 6 innings, allowing 2 hits, 0 runs, with 5 k's. Oh, he picked up 2 hits at the plate too. The remaining crowd gave him a well deserved standing ovation.

Update:
Apparently Moyer wasn't in a good mood last night after the win. The New York Times called him "despondent", Todd Zolecki "dour", and Scott Lauber "sour". Jamie needs to cheer up. He said he didn't want to be a distraction, but acting like that he'll soon become one. I truly hope he doesn't tarnish his hero tag he's earned in Philly. The fans love and respect him, as do I, but if he continues to sulk he'll see how fans in this town can turn on him. Quit being an Eeyore.
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Coming Up Aces:
Last year's AL Cy Young winner, Cliff Lee, has been almost perfect since coming to the NL. He looks for his 4th win in his 4th start tonight for the Phillies. It won't be an easy task with 2009 NL Cy Young hopeful Dan Haren on the mound for the Diamondbacks. Haren rarely walks batters (25 bb in 169 ip) and is stingy with hits as well (126 h in 169 ip, .203 avg against).
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Tidbits:
The Phillies went 5-1 on their road trip through Chicago and Atlanta, despite hitting just .225. They still averaged 5.3 runs per game and hit 12 home runs during the trip. The Phillies had a 1.92 ERA on the trip, including a 1.08 bullpen ERA. The Phils were 13-22 at home in April, May and June. They enter Wednesday night's game against Arizona with a 17-7 record at home in July and August. Philadelphia pitchers had a 2.87 ERA in their previous 30 games. The Phillies were 73-54 (.575) in August since 2005. Only the Mets (.578) have a better winning percentage in August. (From Phillies.com)

~Carson

16 comments:

Jay Ballz said...

Moyer- definitely impressive last night.

ACSmitty79 said...

Moyer was impressive, but i'm surprised at his crappy attitude too. He said he was assured by mgmtn this sort of situation wouldn't happen. Well did he assure management he would suck in the middle of the season? Cus if he didn't he shoudln't be surprised. He's 46, knows his strength and weaknesses and that he's got limited effectiveness. In the words of Marcellus Wallace, "Fuck Pride! Pride only hurts. Never helps"

Corey said...

it's disappointing to see that moyer is acting more like brett myers than...well, jamie moyer. aren't the old and experienced players supposed to lead the young guys? if so, where is jamie leading the young pitchers on this team, like ja happ? i'm already sick of his sour raisins (get it, because he's so old...)

Joshua Lattanzi said...

I was impressed by Moyer's performance, but also consider the opponent. Although this will be helpful with six games against the Fish toward the end of the season. It is a possibility that with the way the Phils and Marlins are playing, that they could run away with two playoff spots over the next 3-4 weeks, especially since they don't play each other again until late Sept.

SirAlden said...

Here is the Deal...

If you had pitched for Decades,
And believed you had an outside chance at going in the Hall of Fame, with every Win helping...

and - This was your Dream and you had been fixating on this for the last decade...

You might be stuck in a Mental Health Funk.

For you or I, We most likely would be happy with healthy children, a beautiful wife to love, and 10s of Millions of Dollars...

These athletes who exist on the highest levels are different than you or I.

Recently Pedro told a story about
how he and his older brother both pitched in the majors. His younger brother made it to the Majors with the Dodgers in a September call up before he injured his arm, and he talked of how it still sticks with him
that they never let him pitch to even one batter.

Would it really be any different in the grand scheme of things if the Martinez family could say all 3 brothers pitched in the Major Leagues?

I forgive Jamie, Dreams are hard to give up and let go of for all of us.

I hope the Phillies will promise him only to come into situations where he can get a Win, not mop up and promise him to trade him where ever his agent can find an automatic 5th Starter Spot for him if they can.

Place the ball in their court, if they cannot find that spot for him, then he will have to understand.

GM-Carson said...

Jamie has had a damn fine career, but Hall of Fame worthy is stretch. His win total is a product of longevity, not brilliance.

Corey said...

@Carson - i think longevity should be a consideration for the hall, as well as brilliance. their are certain players that had a few oustanding years and got in that way. sandy koufax for example only won 165 games but he had 5 absolutely dominant years. but why shouldn't we and the hall value longevity? 15 years of double digit wins, 2 of those are 20 win seasons, 260 total wins, and 23 years pitched. how many other guys pitched in the major for that long and as successfully in their late 40's? he's not one of a kind but we are witnessing something rather unique. i'm not saying that moyer is a hall of famer or not, but i wish longevity was considered more by hall voters. honestly, if i was voting i might say "yes" for moyer,

@siralden - there are many truths in what you wrote. however, he should be a professional and put the team above his self interests. i understand the emotions, but i don't understand the time and place of the expression of these emotions, especially from a veteran.

GM-Carson said...

I'm actually in favor of longevity being a means to being inducted into the Hall. Harold Baines is fine example, the man played 22 seasons and came up just short of 3000 hits (2866). He was a consistent hitter that never had a monster year, but had a ton of good ones. I believe he belongs in the Hall. A case could be made for Moyer too. I was just basing my earlier statement off of what the committee seems to vote on, not my personal opinion.

GM-Carson said...

Just read that the Myers eye injury store has changed again. Apparently he was punched in the face during an altercation at a bar. Seriously, this guy is a lying douchebag. I'll root for him so as long as he's a Phillie, but I can't wait for them to purge him from the system.

Corey said...

can you link that story about myers, i can't find it.

GM-Carson said...

Myers Bar FightStory.

bronxbomber said...

Moyer needs to act like a professional and respect the game. He may be all sour-grapes about the bullpen role, but he's 46 years old and earning millions of dollars per year on a World Championship team. WTF does he expect? He ain't Cliff Lee.

Aaron said...

Looks like Moyer got a fire lit under his ass.

Too bad a demotion is what it took for him to figure out how to pitch better. Maybe if he wasn't satisfied with sucking before the demotion he wouldn't be in this situation.

As for Myers .......oh what a surprise.......it really was a fight..boy sure didn't see that one coming. I thought for sure he was telling the truth after lying in the first place.

I hope he has a set back and never pitches in a phillies uniform again. He's a douch bag with a stupid douche bag tatoo on that wet noodle he calls an arm that he beats his wife with.
Go away Myers.

Aaron said...

Maybe Jeff Parret could be our closer?

Jeremy said...

I love these HOF debates. IF Moyer were to get in then Blyleven, and Mussina should be shoe ins. I don't consider myself a HOF Nazi but voting in a guy like Moyer opens the door for others. Mussina being the perfect example. Despite the fact he only had one 20 win season I believe he was more dominant than Moyer. Thoughts?

Jeremy said...

Again in my opinion... Moyer's win numbers reflect the ten seasons in Seattle. He won 139 games in ten years up there. Now consider from 96-06 those were prime years for players like: Griffey, Edgar Martinez, Tino Martinez, Jay Buhner, A-rod. I would venture a guess that even a decent pitcher would post good numbers with that offense in support. Stats from baseball almanac.

Thus far in 3 plus seasons in Philly Moyer has racked up 45 wins, again supported by a prolific offense. Now a prolific offense helps any pitcher but look at the other years with the Cubs, Rangers, Cardinals, Orioles and BoSox. No dominance there, mediocre at best.