Thursday, July 31, 2008

Manny the Marlin & 1st Place

Phils beat gNats 8-5, reclaim 1st place.

Now for the real story, the Florida Marlins are close to obtaining Manny Ramirez from the BoSox. Manny the Marlin? That scares me. The Marlins already have a formidable offense, and putting Manny (.299 avg, 20 hr, .926 OPS) in the middle of that lineup only makes it stronger while also giving the rest of the team a mental/confidence boost because management isn't sellers at the deadline for a change. The Fish are currently in 3rd place in the jumbled NL East, but that 3rd place is only 1.5 games back of the Phils and 1 game back of the 2nd place Mets (who they just won a series against without Manny). The Marlins would only have to part with outfielder Jeremy Hermida (.257 avg, 15 hr, .772 OPS) and two other nobodies. Florida probably wouldn't stop wheelin'-n-dealin' there either, as they're rumored to be looking for a lefty reliever and a catcher. They've recently just got starters Josh Johnson and Anibal Sanchez back, and have rookie pitcher Chris Volstad KO'ing batters too, so this team is rather frightening.

What about the rest of the NL East? First off, let's just write off the Nationals and Braves, because the Nationals are horrible and the Braves have openly become sellers. The Mets on the otherhand are looking for a starting pitcher and an outfielder, and if this Manny the Marlin scenario pans out count on Omar Minaya making some moves here this afternoon before the Trade Deadline. Phillies? Pat Gillick already made his "big splash" in acquiring the lackluster Joe Blanton, so it's doubtful anything fruitful comes out of today for the Phils, unless of course you consider the Tour de Philly Part Deux of Arthur Rhodes something worthwhile.

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Quickies:
*Former lefty reliever of the Phils Matt Smith is rehabbing in Single A and has now made 11 appearances pitching 12.2 innings while walking 5 batters and striking out 14 for a 2.84 era. His control while with the Phils was erratic, so it's encouraging to see him not walking a batter an inning, albeit in the low minors.

*Former 1st round pick Kyle Drabek is also mending in the low minors and pitched for the first time in 2008 yesterday, going 3 innings while only allowing 1 hit.

*Jamie Moyer picked up career win 240 last night.

*Shane Victorino has 6 homeruns over the last 13 games.

*Carlos Ruiz is 8-24 (.333) over his last 7 starts.

~Carson

38 comments:

GM-Carson said...

Remember Julio Mateo? He only pitched for the Phils minors last year, but came he with legal trouble and now seems to be in it again. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-mateo-fakebills&prov=ap&type=lgns

Bob D said...

Good to see some of those who are/were struggling (Ruiz, Coste, Vic, Utley) getting hits again.

Myers prevented Happ from starting next week, and Blanton is better than Eaton. But that does not say much. I still hope both will straighten out things this year and become dependable.

GreggyD said...

It really bothers me that the Mets and Marlins will most likely go out and make their teams better while the Phillies will sit on their hands (again, minus probably picking up Arthur Rhodes). How do they expect to compete when the teams they're fighting with are going out and finding ways to make deals that work for them. It seems like the Phillies could pull off some of these moves just as easy as any other team. Pudge Rodriguez straight up for Kyle Farnsworth? We couldn't top that? Jeremy Hermida and some mid-level prospects for one of the best hitters in the game and that's out of our reach? Give me a break. The Phillies still need a bat that is consistent and shouldn't have a problem finding one if they would just open their eyes.

GM-Carson said...

Manny for Hermida probably could have been substituted for Manny for Werth along with some middling prospects from the Phils system. Manny would be a difference maker in our lineup, just like he is for BoSox and will be for the Marlins.

Instead we're crippled by the contracts of Tom Gordon, Adam Eaton, and Geoff Jenkins, and not to mention we're still paying Jim Thome 6 million or so. Stupid Pat Gillick!!!

GM-Carson said...

How about Werth misplaying that Ryan Zimmerman "double" last night the inning he took over in LF for Burrell. Manuel has got to stop this foolishness. Burrell hasn't made an error on the season and leads the NL in outfield assists. He's not as bad as Manuel thinks he is, and the defensive replacements for him have actually been worse at times.

GreggyD said...

"Manny for Hermida probably could have been substituted for Manny for Werth along with some middling prospects from the Phils system. Manny would be a difference maker in our lineup, just like he is for BoSox and will be for the Marlins."

My sentiments exactly. I just posted the same type of deal for Manny over at The700Level. Instead of being our difference maker, he is going to kill our homerun happy pitchers. Gillick had better make something happen if he knows Florida is close to obtaining one of the best hitters of not just now, but of all time.

GM-Carson said...

Why isn't there more trade interest in Adam Dunn? He has a .952 OPS this season and a lifetime .904 OPS. He leads MLB in homeruns (32) and he has 74 rbi this season. He's only 28 and making 13 million, with a reasonable option for 16 million next season. To me, he's very much like Ryan Howard who we all think would get a ton of trade interest if the Phils were to make him on the market.

Greggy D- I am not a Manny fan, but you are right in that he is one of the greatest right-handed batters of all-time, like it or not.

Reverend Paul Revere said...

Gillick < Wade in Philly?

Jeremy said...

This Manny to Florida thing scares the crap out of me. The phils need to make a move but not just one for the sake of it. Reds trade Griffey Jr to the White sox pending Juniors approval.

GreggyD said...

The Reds have reached a deal with the White Sox to send Ken Griffey Jr to Chicago pending Junior's approval.

Good point on Dunn, Carson.

GreggyD said...

Great minds think alike

GM-Carson said...

I'm not sure I understand the Griffey to ChiSox deal. They already have Dye, Swisher, and Quentin in the outfield, Konerko and 1st, and Thome at DH. Guess Griffey plays CF again with Swisher splitting time with the struggling Konerko.

I love the trade deadline, it's a fun day for a baseball fan.

I see Gillick picking up a lefty reliever and that's it.

GM-Carson said...

By the way, thanks to all the WSBGM's readers, as the site has broken the record for page views by about 1000 for the month of July. I expect today to be a busy day on here too. Spread the love and the word of WSBGM's to friends, family, and foes...the more the merrier, or gayer.

GM-Carson said...

Potential Marlins lineup: Lineup: SS- Hanley Ramirez (.911 OPS), RF- Josh Willingham (.875), LF- Manny Ramirez (.926), 2B- Dan Uggla (.932), 3B- Jorge Cantu (.819), 1B- Mike Jacobs (.803), CF- Cody Ross (.803), C- John Baker (.688).

Bench: Luis Gonzalez, Alfredo Amezaga, Wes Helms, Roberto Adino.

Chase Trillo said...

I'd rather see the Phils make a push for Jason Bay than Manny. I bet you could get Bay for Werth and Carrasco, or if you didn't want to give up Carrasco, you probably could do Victorino and some lesser prospects. Do it Pat!

I'd also swap Donald and Condrey to KC for Mahay. Give them a reliever back (someone has to go off our roster anyway).

GreggyD said...

There's no way the Royals would want to take Condrey. Donald would be enough to get Mahay.

That Marlins lineup is terrifying.

GM-Carson said...

Say what you want about Clay Condery, but I'm fine with him staying in the bullpen. Rudy Seanez on the otherhand doesn't serve much of a purpose anymore and neither does JA Happ unless Manuel actually decides to use him (he should have been used last night instead of Madson).

GreggyD said...

I feel that way about Condrey sometimes. He shows flashes of brilliance, but then he might implode other times. He has definitely been better than I would have expected though. I just don't think that the Royals would want to take on another player for Mahay. They would probably be more than satisfied with Donald.

The Phillies love to call players up and not use them. They waited quite awhile before using RJ Swindle, they haven't used Happ yet, and I highly doubt we see Cervenak at all even though this is his second trip up to the big club (he had one AB on July 11). I understand he's not necessarily the same because he is simply filling a bench spot, but it just shows the Phillies don't like to give these guys as much time as they could sometimes.

Oh and by the way, I highly doubt the Phillies get Mahay. It's all about Arthur Rhodes (if they even get him) and Pat Gillick will justify it somehow. No matter what he says, this fanbase is going to be pissed at 4:00.

Boogerking said...

I'm not waiting 'til 4:00 to get pissed.This is f*cking absurd.It couldn't be more obvious what this team needs to improve beyond mediocrity.Year after year after year we never know what the hell our starting rotation is going to look like next week.No flippin' way we win the division now.And the wild card isn't going to come from the East again.So lets throw in the towel.Dump these idiots that can't decide if they're starters,closers,middle relievers, or even simply healthy.And then let's get a manager who has the guts to tell Rollins that the applause he hears is coming from little kids who don't know the difference between winning and losing a baseball game.J-Roll can either get a better attitude or f*ck off.I don't care about Myers "gettin' his swagger back", I don't care about beating the Braves and Nationals.What I do care about is Florida at least trying to do something real to make the team better.It's cliched, I know,but as long as the Cit-n-Stare keeps housing sold out games for a crowd that roots for a .500 baseball team nothing will change...strike that.As long as the bags of corpse dust that is the Philly owners conglomerate(what an accurate term to describe the ruling body of the Philadelphia Phillies;conglomerate,sounds like a medical term for impacted colon)remain "alive" we will deal with the never-ending stupidity.MAKE A GODDAM MEANINGFUL AQUISITION ALREADY!!!!!!

GreggyD said...

Arthur Rhodes to the Marlins. You know he will come in and kill us out of the pen now just because we have been so down on him. Oh well, I am happy the Phils didn't bring him back. I'm just wondering now if they'll get anyone.

Rachel said...

Cool! I'll put your url on the list of Phils blogs I have already.

GM-Carson said...

Art Antique Rhodes Show to Florida. He'll probably help them. I didn't want him though.

Besides Manny, the Marlins may make a move for one of these catchers- Gerald Laird, Ramon Hernandez, Gregg Zaun, and others are still out there.

C.M.R. said...

why do i get the feeling this is gonna be 2003 all over again?

Boogerking said...

AH HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH(cough)HAHAHAH(wheeze)HAHAHAH(choke)....This is a sad state of affairs when the Marlins,with all of 500 fans, can deal for productive baseball players while the Phillies sit on they're asses and work on tomorrow's quotes such as "(insert irreverant nasaly voice)We're fine with what we've got", "We made our move with Blanton", "There wasn't anything interesting available", or the classic line where they try to make fans out to be idiots "people need to be patient and allow our earlier moves time to pan out".I'm going to go puke up my lunch now.

GreggyD said...

Doesn't look like the Marlins will be getting their productive players after all as it's being reported that the 3 way deal involving the Fish, Buccos, and BoSox is all but dead. Glad to see that the Marlins will have to work with what they have. That lineup would have been terrifying. There's still time for it to get done of course.

I just hope Gillick can find something out there. Nothing big, just another decent hitter (God I would love Matt Kemp) and a lefty reliever because if Myers sucks again and Happ moves to the rotation, we can't rely on Romero as our only lefty.

Boogerking said...

The point is they tried,even if it doesn't get done.Why don't ANY of our teams ever display this kind of imagination when trying to put a trade together?

GreggyD said...

I completely agree that it's awesome that they tried. However, we don't know if the Phillies ever try with deals. Do you honestly think that Pat Gillick will come out and tell you whom he offered for this player or that one? Yes, they balked at Ramirez, but if they found out the asking price was too high and they couldn't afford it, then why would they even bother?

I feel for you BK, but I am starting to think things through logically as the trade deadline slowly approaches and I see that barely anyone has made a significant deal. I would love if the Phillies would find a huge upgrade that didn't cost them their entire farm system or a core player, but they just never seem to come around.

Chase Trillo said...

This had to be the most boring trade deadline ever (not that it is ever really exciting in Philadelphia).

GM-Carson said...

Looks like Jason Bay is heading to the Rays...good for them. Stick it to the BoSux and Yanks.

Phils didn't get squat, but will be needing someone for the bench now that it appears Pedro Feliz will be on the DL longer than just 15 days with a bad back. So Taguchi is safe and will probably stick around the entire season. Mike Cervenak is the seldom used last man on the bench right now.

Manny the Marlins probably won't happen...thank goodness.

Kris Benson had his 3rd straight quality start for the Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs today. His teammate, lefty journeyman Les Walrond, had one helluva July going 4-0 with a 1.00 ERA and 43/12 K/BB ratio.

GM-Carson said...

Wait, maybe the Rays didn't get Bay...hell I don't know what happened if anything. Griffey to ChiSox and Rhodes to Marlins is all I know.

GM-Carson said...

Ok, here's the latest- Manny to the Dodgers. Jason Bay to the Red Sox. Pirates get Craig Hansen, Brandon Moss, Andy LaRoche (Adam's brother), and Bryan Morris.

Pirates did well, lot of prospects.

GM-Carson said...

Kendrick looking bad, but offense looking good. Looks like Kyle may pick up another win thanks to good run support...I'm okay with that.

dr. steve said...

He's given up a lot of hits but he's only given up two runs. Can't complain there, can we?

GM-Carson said...

I like Kendrick. He was exactly what this team needed last season, and he fits the mold of a #4/5 this season in the rotation.

GM-Carson said...

Rudy Seanez sucks. Gillick needs to find a reliever out there better than him and try to pick him up, which is still possible even thougth the trade "deadlined" has passed.

Phils win, 5 straight, nice!

BloodStripes said...

Phils win and sweep and Pittsburgh scores with Andy LaRoche. Marlins get Rhodes so the Phils can mash him. Good day all round.

SirAlden said...

I think the Pirates are smart!

Been almost 3 decades since I
could say that.

GM-Carson said...

Between the Nady/Marte and Bay deals, the Pirates got themselves some good, young, inexpensive talent.