Monday, January 28, 2008

Rope, Knot, Jump

Rope- the Phillies signed Pedro Feliz.
Knot- it's a 2 year contract.
Jump- he is an out making machine...offensively.

P.S. We still have Wes Helms.

~Carson

27 comments:

GM-Carson said...

Maybe I'm overly harsh on this signing, but I seriously see Feliz as a No-Hit Nunez with some pop...basically he sucks at hitting.

The only positive- has good defense.

But for 2 years?!?!?! Why 2?!?!?!?!

GreggyD said...

I don't understand the two years thing either and I wish everyone could have seen the look of disgust on my face when I got the text message from espn.com telling me that the signing had happened.

I really don't know what the Phillies are going to do now with Feliz, Dobbs, and Helms, but I hope that they can get rid of old Wesley. I think that's been all of our dreams for quite some time now, but they need to clear up this three man platoon situation.

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GM-Carson said...

Dobbs will still get a start or two a week at 3rd probably, and with him going back to the bench player role it does strengthen the bench.

Helms gets dealt to Florida for a minor league nobody-never-will-be and we eat almost his entire contract unfortunately.

GM-Carson said...

Thanks for editing you swear words Sean, this is a family oriented blog afterall.

Corey said...

awwwwwwww, shit.

Haute.Rec said...

The fact that the veteran-loving Giants didn't want him should have been a clue. Hoping the Phils wouldn't sign him was delusional on my part. He moved from one of my favorite teams to another. Wonderful....

GM-Carson said...

Actually the Giants did want him, why I don't know, but Feliz turned down a reported 2 year offer from San Fran.

Corey- thanks for that link. Like I've been saying, dude is an out making machine offensively and defensively, but it's only good 1 way.

Haute.Rec said...

Ah yes, you're right, I was a bit vague. The Giants wanted him, but for no more than 2 years. He wanted at least 3 years and a raise and, thank goodness, they didn't give in. Why the Giants were even negotiating while the have Frandsen is beyond me.

I can't be totally pessimistic though, while Feliz is a mediocre hitter, it's reasonable to think he'll hit at least 20 HRs, at least that's an improvement from the goose egg we got from Nunez last year.

GM-Carson said...

I hope Feliz knocks at least 20 homeruns, that one of his only attributes. That and his defense. Certainly isn't in on base %

Bob D said...

2years with option? Uhg!

Upgrade over Helms and Nunez - Yes.

Dobbs - Only on defense, offense maybe not.

Someone needs to be taken off the roster (40man) now, Helms likely as he will be the odd man out, hopefully via trade with no $$$ exchanging.

Three improvements with this signing is: 1)for the pitchers - really good defense now will help alot. 2) Not making 3 changes a night at 3rd base will also help the bench and 3) Manuels game decisions are easier with more players for the bench.

So, yes, this is an upgrade, but an expensive upgrade. So don't hang your self yet Carson or Corey or Greg or Sean or haut de something or another.

Bob D said...

I love the questions they pick for the Phils mailbag. They take the questions that are nearly impossible - like - "What are the chances of the Phillies keeping either Javon Moran or Greg Golson for added late-inning speed to replace the lost speed of Chris Roberson and Michael Bourn?"

I should write some of these - like - Will Cole Hamels anchor Readings staff or do you think he will get a shot at the Majors again this year? Dingleberry, NJ

SirAlden said...

UGH!

"He's been a full-time starter since 2004, averaging 21 homers and 84 RBIs. Feliz, who turns 33 on April 27, is a career .252 hitter with a .288 on-base percentage."

Averages 84 RBI's with a .288 Career OBP! Close your eyes and SWING!

I hope and I believe they will let Dobbs start to stay fresh.

Dobbs on the bench is a significant upgrade. I do not buy that they wasted money they decided that they wanted him and someone else was going to give two years I assume.

He does not cost Happ, Outman, or Carpenter, which is what Crede would have cost.

This is a complex, you have to digest it pickup, with the ERA going down on the staff by .10 runs, and Dobbs with no pressure
on him, (and no other options)....

"I SAY OLE!!!!!"

I do love watching Picks at 3B the most of anything on the defense.

SirAlden said...

Helms is toast.

furiousBall said...

I'm fine with this, Helms will be going to the Fish, and hopefully they will eat his contract. Feliz hates taking walks, but he's solid in the field. We've got plenty of offense, he's a better 3rd baseman than Dobbs.

SirAlden said...

In 2006 Feliz batted .274 with 15 HR and 62 RBI before the break, only to finish at .202 with just 7 HR and 36 RBI after the All-Star game.

UGH UGH!!

"Let's get off to a 13-4 start and then bench him".

"I wonder if Cholly and Milty can do anything. Doubtful."

Pete said...

here is someone who disagrees

http://reclinergm.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/welcome-pedro-feliz-respectable-third-baseman/

SirAlden said...

Pussy News from mets blog

"…ugh…i just heard a bit of Kevin Burkhardt’s pre-taped interview with Billy Wagner, which will air for the first time tonight on SNY’s Mets Hot Stove…during the interview, wagner tells kevin that, as of today, the Phillies and Braves should be ranked higher than the Mets…"

BloodStripes said...

For reasons already stated by SirAlden, Furiousball and the above link. This signing is good.

BloodStripes said...

If the offensive numbers are the same as a Helms/Dobbs platoon with Feliz hitting a few more homers then the Phils are on a winner because he is rated as the number 1 gloveman in baseball for 3B by the fielding bible voters. With superb offense around him his numbers will suffice because his D is gold glove. Do the Phils now have a red hot infield or what? The last 2 MVP's, the next one and Pedro's glove. The bench is very solid with good backup options all-round.

The Phils are gonna kick arse this year!

GM-Carson said...

Don't get me wrong, I hated the Dobbs/Helms platoon option, but Feliz can't do anything at the plate besides hit 20 homeruns a season. He never walks and often grounds into double plays (71 over past 4 seasons).

I do agree this makes the bench stronger, because that's what Dobbs is- a great bench/role player.

Jarex said...

Pardon my dissenting voice, and I may be late to the party, but I'm not feeling completely negative about this trade. I think Feliz is going to benefit from being in this lineup, first of all. Secondly, I think he'll benefit from playing at the House of Cit. Thirdly, I think he'll benefit from being around "hitting genius" Charlie Manuel. Fourthly, if there is such a word, he IS an upgrade over Helms and Dobbs, which leads me to Fifthly that says 3rd base should NOT be a platoon position on any major league team. Helms goes bye bye, Dobbs gets the occasional start plus the key pinch hitting spots, and Feliz winds up batting .280 with career highs in HR and RBI. Call me an optimist if you want, but I think he's going to have a good year playing in Philly batting 7th.

Jarex said...

I said "trade" - I meant signing, but it is a trade in that we've traded away the thought of a 3rd base platoon.

Haute.Rec said...

Now that I've had time to absorb the news, I must admit I now think Feliz will be a good fit. There are reports that he wasn't happy with SF and I'm guessing/hoping that playing for a contending team will have a positive effect on the 3rd baseman.

GM-Carson said...

To be honest, Feliz can't be much worse than the '07 collection of 3rd basemen...but I don't think he's much of an upgrade either.

Sean said...

Guys, it gets worse--http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080129&content_id=2359161&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp

Sean said...


Sorry bout that; stupid link didnt work
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