Thursday, October 18, 2007

Phillies Phlashback Phriday - Rolen & Schilling

With all the talk about possibly bringing back two phormer phan phavorites, Scott Rolen and Curt Schilling, I thought I would reminisce today on some of the highlights of each player's time in Philadelphia.

Scott Rolen:

Rolen was the NL Rookie of the Year in 1997, and averaged 26 homers and 95 RBI in his first five full seasons. And then...

Rolen considered signing a long-term contract with the Phillies before the 2001 season. But tired of losing, he wanted the team to make a commitment to winning. Rolen figured a higher payroll would be a step in that direction, and wanted a clause in his contract that guaranteed Philadelphia would be among the top teams in that department. The Phillies rightfully refused. Rolen then rejected a 10-year contract extension that could've been worth up to $140 million, or a 7 year deal worth 90 million, depending on which report you believe.

He feuded with manager Larry Bowa and became a main target for criticism by fans. Rolen heard boos increasingly as his average dipped. After hitting his second homer of the game in an 8-4 win over Montreal on June 1, Rolen wouldn't come out of the dugout to acknowledge a curtain call. "Maybe we're even,'' he said.

An anonymous teammate allegedly called Rolen a clubhouse "cancer.''

With his departure all but assured at the end of the season, Rolen was traded to St. Louis for Placido Polanco, Bud Smith and Mike Timlin.

How did Rolen feel after hearing the news of being traded to St. Louis? "I felt as if I'd died and gone to heaven. I'm so excited that I can't wait to get on the plane (Tuesday morning) and get to Florida to join the Cardinals."
Curt Schilling:
Schill was not the most popular of players when he was in the City of Love. But like with many other things, Mitch Williams can sum it all up in a few sentences.



GM-Carson said...

To be honest I don't have fond memories of either of them, although they each did great things while in Philly. Rolen was a whiny bitch and Schilling was a pompous asshole. With that said, I'd take either of them back at the right price. However, Rolen coming back to the Phils doesn't make sense, and I doubt he'd be willing to do that. Schill on the other hand is looking to be a hero for one last time and might be inclined to come back on a 1 year deal with the hopes of leading the Phils to the World Series and then retiring. Schill for 1 year 10-12 mil is worth the risk in my opinion.

SirAlden said...

Schilling single handedly pitched us through Atlanta in '93 and blew his arm off for the team.

It could have ended his career.

I always watched Wild Man with a towel over my head as well.

Bringing Schilling to back to work with Myers as a surogate Dad, and having Moyer working with Hamels makes alot of sense.

They can mitigate "smoke 'um if you gottem Dubee".

GM-Carson said...

Corey and I watched part of the 1st playoff game with rally towels over our heads, especially during that ugly 2nd inning of Hamels.

GM-Carson said...

With Joe Torre's departure from the Yankees Mariano Rivera looks to hit the open market. The Phils will surely look into signing him, but I doubt we outbid the Yanks in the end.

I read this about Garrett Atkins- If the Rockies are considering moving Atkins, who made $400,000 this season, the Phillies seemingly would be a nice fit.

Last week, the Phillies elected not to exercise the option on Abraham Nunez' contract for 2008. General manager Pat Gillick said the team was "just looking in a different direction right now at third base."

Besides trying to sign free-agent centerfielder Aaron Rowand, the Phillies are expected to pursue a third baseman, even though Wes Helms has another year on his contract.

Atkins, who reportedly has been looked at by the Twins, Angels, Dodgers and Astros, probably would have little trouble fitting into the Phillies' infield. He already knows second baseman Chase Utley, his teammate at UCLA. The two have regularly text-messaged each other during the playoffs.

He also probably enjoys hitting in Citizens Bank Park. In 10 career games there, including two in the postseason, he has two home runs and seven RBI.

When asked whether Philadelphia would be an attractive option for him should the Rockies trade him, he smiled as if he knew the question was coming and already had an answer prepared.

"I don't know about all that," he said. "I love playing [in Colorado]. Obviously, both places are good parks to hit in. I like the winning thing we got going on here, and they obviously got some winning going on over there as well. But right now, I like playing here and [I'm] just enjoying my time here." *

furiousBall said...

Rolen is a great player, but if he would stop being a baby and condition himself better in the offseason, he'd be in the same stratosphere as where he thinks he currently is.

I liked Schill as pitcher, sure he's a jackass, but he hasn't thrown a pitch with his ideas yet.

GM-Carson said...

I hope once the World Series is over, that deals will start getting made. Not just with the Phils, but all over baseball, that way it's not January and we're still left wondering who will play 3rd base, be in the bullpen, and so forth.

Bob D said...

I wanted Schilling back 4 years ago. I still would like him back. Rolen I always liked him as a player but thought he was selfish. Atkins would be nice to have to man 3rd base. If he or someone else came along then if Constanzo improved (which is highly likely) he could be used as a replacement or trade material. Lets not forget that Rolen's fielding and strikeouts were issues when he was in the minors, so Constanzo could develop simular.

SirAlden said...

Constanzo has two issues.

Fielding and Strikeouts.

If I were the Phillies I would have him repeat AA.

Then move him to AAA next year.

He is not a quick fix. As the Arizona Winter League is showing us. He has talent but needs two full years in the Minors for his worth to be determined.

SirAlden said...

I really hope we do not sign Rowand even at 10 Million a year.

How will that be fair to Jimmy Rollins at 7.5? Rowand had a career year which is great for him and was great for the Phillies, god bless him.

His range factors suck, and none other than Andruw Jones said in article in July that he felt that
Shane Victorino was among the best if not the best Centerfielder in Baseball.

Any money directed towards hitters should go to 3B. Cabrara, Atkins, Lowell in that order.

Trade with a team having great urgency Florida, trade with team with mild urgency Colorado, or First Round Draft Pick to the Red Sox.

SirAlden said...

Or Crede as very affordable and very high "Bell like" injury watch risk.