Monday, October 29, 2007

Burning Money





~Carson

66 comments:

SirAlden said...

If money is to be spent on a hitter, the two choices are in CF or at 3B.

The money should be spent at 3B.

Why? If the money is spent at 3B do the Phillies have a good option in CF? Yes. Andruw Jones of Hall of Fame Glove Fame said in an interview in July that he felt that Shane Victorino was the best CF in the National League.

If the money is spent in CF on Rowand do the Phillies have a good option at 3B? No nas Helms; No Constanzo (2 years away at least, if ever); No he who will remain nameless.

SirAlden said...

nas = mas

GM-Carson said...

Here's another way to burn money (from MLBTradeRumors.com)- Let's take a look at the available free agent relievers this winter. The number following the player is his 2008 age.

Jeremy Affeldt (29) - There seems to be a growing sentiment that Affeldt will get paid decently this winter. He's had a big-time walk problem in recent years and didn't correct it in '07. A low hit rate kept his ERA under 4.00...he could be a bust. He made $1.25MM in '07 but could get some kind of silly three-year Scott Schoeneweis deal.

Joe Kennedy (29) - Interesting year for Kennedy, who pitched for Oakland, Arizona, and Toronto. He made 16 starts for the A's. He walked more than he struck out. If there's a positive, it's that he allowed only 9 HR in 110 innings.

Ron Mahay (37) - Mahay was part of the Teixeira deal, and he pitched well for both clubs. Like a lot of these guys, his control is poor. But he only allowed 4 HR in 67 innings and posted a 2.55 ERA (again on the strength of a low hit rate). He made $1.2MM this year.

Trever Miller (35) - He was very good in '06 but his command slipped this year en route to a 4.86 ERA. He made $1.3MM.

J.C. Romero (32) - The Phils picked him up after the Red Sox released him, and he did a nice job with a 1.24 ERA in 36 innings. But his success was owed to an absurdly low and unsustainable hit rate of 3.72 per nine innings. Romero still walked a ton of hitters, as is his custom. Romero's agent has talked to the Phils but isn't optimistic. He should get at least $2MM per year from some team.

Ron Villone (38) - He wasn't really much worse than any of these other bums.

There are others to consider as well, vets like Mike Myers and Eddie Guardado. There's no reliable Jamie Walker type here, but Mahay may be the best of the bunch. Any team that gives a three-year deal to any of these types probably doesn't know what it's doing or has too much money to spend.

Bob D said...

Give up Rowand and recieve draft picks in return, then sign A.Jones and give up those draft picks? I'd rather keep Rowand with the higher average, usually less power, but better fielder despite Jones getting all of those gold gloves.

3 other ways that the Phils will get relievers: trade, a non-tender player in December, and rule 5 draft. There may be a gem or 2 with the non-tenders as they will be highly paid players too expensive for some club. I do expect a trade for at least 1 RP. The Phils have depth at OF and even more valuable catchers. As for rule-5 likely canidates are a reliever or someone who will play the role of utility infielder. A utility infielder may find his way to the team via a trade throwin as well. Keeping Lohse, Romero, and Rowand would not be bad for the team as they would make a trade highly likely. They can afford all 3 with possibly making 1 other significant addition or 2 if Burrell is one who goes in a trade and 3 if Gavin-who-should-not-be-named-also-Eaton gets traded (yeah, right!).
The Phils are in a perfect spot to throw a superior team on the field next year in the NL. They have question marks at 3B, CF, 1 SP, and a couple of RP spots. That is not bad, especially compared to the other teams. Watch for Gillick in his last year before retiring to work some magic this off season.

thewster said...

That's the funniest thing I've seen all day.

Jacobin said...

If Romero can be had for $2 million per, I'd bring him back in a second. My guess it the guy is looking for something in the $4 million range and that there is some asshat of an owner who will be dumb enough to pay it.

And I agree that money should be put toward 3B over CF in an ideal situation, but that is really going to depend on who is available at these positions. If there is a good bat/glove to be had at 3B, then go get it by all means... but if there's just a bunch of crap out there, then don't spend just to spend (see Adam Eaton).

GreggyD said...

I love the reports on all of the RP's out there on the market. I particularly love that all of the guys listed have some flaw and is not really that great, but then again neither is the Phils bullpen. It seems like no matter who the Phillies might try to sign, there's going to be some risk with them. The issue then becomes which RP brings the least risk, with the highest reward. Relievers are so iffy anymore. I can't wait for this offseason to get started. I'm pumped up already.

GM-Carson said...

Signing relievers is such a crapshoot. Relievers are highly unpredictable and inconsistent. The most consistently good ones become closers, while the rest fight out for specialist, set-up, and mop-up duties. I know we need to spend money on bullpen help, but a set-up man for 6+ mil (Tom Gordon) is retarded. JC Romero at 4 mil per season is not worth it. I know we need relief, but giving that much money to a reliever that isn't a closer is dumb.

GreggyD said...

I agree with the fact that we need to spend smartly and not just to spend money. It doesn't make any sense to dump $4 million into a reliever who could quite possibly turn into even more of a walk machine with a high ERA. I'd much rather invest in low risk, high reward players than those who give you one thing one year and the opposite the next. Relief pitching is truly a crapshoot. A team may have the best bullpen one year and then have them falter the next season, thinking they have one of the best in baseball. I just hope that management makes some semi-intelligent decisions with some type of genuine justification.

SirAlden said...

Rowands Range Factor is the next to last of all CFers in the National League who made enough Put Outs to Qualify.

Victorino the sprinter is the best bet. Saving cash for other worthy big signings.

Money should not be thrown at these clowns. Wait in the reeds like a big old Bass and hit the opportunity when it swims by.

Erik Bedard of the Orioles, who Gillick tried to pry loose with Abreu may be becoming available.

Don't go for so-so talent. This team is 2 killer pitchers away from
dynasty.

Los said...

Any other questionable starting pithcers out there for Gillick?

SirAlden said...

Lots of them LOS.

The world is full of them.

The question is who is not questionable and available.

Aside from Schilling at his advanced age, all will require a trade to acquire.

Bob D said...

Lohse was a good pitcher and a full year with Philly's offense he would be one of the top SP in the NL. One draw back is he will likely be looking for Eaton $$$ and don't know if they can do that again. One target via trade could be Fuentes from Colorado, he had a high ERA but most of that was from a 1 week period when he pitched hurt. He came back fairly strong after a DL stint. Another option is to pump Eaton full of steriods and hope he doesn't get tested.

SirAlden said...

Lohse is sadly going to get twice the
24 million that Eaton got.

Lohse would be a great pick-up at 8 million times 3 years. He 4 years and 44 mil is my first guess.

GM-Carson said...

Average starting pitchers get big money now-a-days, and that means Kyle Lohse is looking at a big payday, which puts him out of the Phils budget. It's really a shame we have Adamn Eaton for 2 more seasons sucking up payroll.

GM-Carson said...

From Phillies.com- Do you think the Phillies will re-sign Abraham Nunez and Rod Barajas?
-- Ellen D., Oreland, Pa.

Nunez is a possibility. Barajas is not.


*I just puked and swallowed...disgusting feeling right now.

SirAlden said...

"From Phillies.com- Do you think the Phillies will re-sign he who will remain nameless and Rod Barajas?
-- Ellen D., Oreland, Pa.

he who will remain nameless is a possibility. Barajas is not.


*I just puked and swallowed...disgusting feeling right now."

Just honoring the rules to give respect.

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