Sunday, July 29, 2007

Madson to DL, Geary To Philly

From Yahoo! sports: "Phillies reliever Ryan Madson was placed on the 15-day disabled list with a strained right shoulder after Philadelphia's 5-1 victory over Pittsburgh on Sunday. Reliever Geoff Geary was recalled from Triple-A Ottawa and will join the team for Monday's game in Chicago against the Cubs..."It's been bothering me for a few days but I thought I could throw through it," said Madson, who will have a MRI on Monday. "Brett has already given me advice on the injury."

What was the advice, "Pitch through the pain?"

Madson was actually throwing pretty well, his ERA was down to 3.05. Another knock on an already depleted bullpen. They can't play the Pirates every game...

On a positive note, Gas Can and his disturbing face are back from Canada.
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Wild Card Chase
Despite the pitching, despite the injuries, despite Pat Burrell's first 5 months, here are the Wild Card standings:
             W - L GB
Arizona 58-49 --
San Diego 56-48 .5
Chicago 55-48 1.0
Philadelphia 55-49 1.5
Four HUGE games against the Cubs starting today. Let's hope Hamels starts them out on the right foot.
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Abreu Watch - Back to Philly?
Even though the Phils got basically nothing in return for Bobby Abreu, I was one of the few who thought the "addition by subtraction" theory of the trade was valid. The day of the trade, I said, "He is owed $15 million next year, and his skills are in an obvious decline. For a team like the Phillies, it is difficult to defend paying a player who hit below .300 and below 20 homeruns that much money, regardless of his OBP...They are trading a player with a good, not great, history, with a huge contract, and declining skills." The idea of his "declining skills" was not a popular one on the blogs and I took a lot of grief. Therefore, I feel the need to shove his crappy numbers up the noses of the people who didn't believe me. Today's installment: a comparison to Pat Burrell. We are all aware of Burrell's troubles this year, getting benched for about a month and hitting 6th for most of the year. He has had a good 4 weeks, but overall, he's had a terribly disappointing season. Here are Burrell's, then Abreu's numbers:
.255-13-53-.872
.270-8-61-.750
That's pretty ugly. How can the Yankees continue to bat this guy high in the order? Could you imagine the Phillies paying these two almost 30 million dollars to put up these numbers? The Phils saved almost 23 million dollars by trading this mediocre player.

Abreu is having such a down year, the Yankees have the option of paying him $16 million next year or buying him out for $2 million. The latter seems more likely, making Abreu a free agent. Where should Abreu go? How about Philadelphia? If Abreu would accept far less money than he has received recently (which he might have too, because the list of teams willing to pay over $10 million for him will be small to non-existent), and Rowand leaves, an outfield of Burrell, Victorino, Abreu could be interesting...especially if you believe that Abreu is having trouble with the "bright lights" and pressure of NYC. A trip back to warm and cuddly South Philadelphia might do him good...
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San Cristobal
Patron saint of sticking it to Pat Gillick...that curtain call two days ago was great, he might as well have pointed a middle finger back at the GM's box for making him sit in Reading for the last few months.

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but Chris Coste is now hitting .349, after hitting .328 last year. When Jayson Werth come back from the DL, Rod Barajas should be released. However, if that happens, when Ruiz catches, Manuel can't use Coste to PH. What I would do, since I Should Be GM, is release Werth or Nunez or Helms, since Dobbs is the teams 5th outfielder and backup 3rd baseman. Whatever those numb-nuts in the front office do, they have to keep Coste. If they don't, I may lead a storming of the Bastille, err, Citizens Park.

Corey

41 comments:

GM-Carson said...

Philly loves Chris Coste, and for good reason. I can not say this enough...the man has done nothing but hit at the MLB level. I know he hasn't amassed 500 at bats over a full season yet, but his +.325 average is damn good, especially for a catcher. His defense is decent too. So why the hell hasn't he been on the roster all season and getting considerable playing time? F.U. Patty G!!!

Ultey's gone for at least a month. Now Madson probably for the season. Do we still have hope? Hell yes! Ryan Howard is solid, Fence-Face continues to have a nice season, Burrell is on the upswing, and Jimmy Rollins has been amazing. Basically I'm saying we'll continue to score runs. Pitching is and always has been the problem. Kendrick has established himself as a rotation plug for this season and probably seasons to come, Moyer has calmed down a bit, Hamels is good, Eaton sucks but hey so does Durbin. Bullpen was looking much better until MadDog went down...maybe Gas Can can recapture last season's magic.

goDuke said...

The only thing we can do is hope for the best. Big series against the cubbies. Hopefully Hamels starts it off well tonight. Burrell is gonna go deep twice because he is way overdue for a multi-HR game. You're my boy Burrell.

Jacobin said...

The Coste for Ensberg rumor makes my stomach turn. Ensberg has been designated for assignment, basically spelling out this his career in Houston is over. Why would you give up anything good for this guy, and if you don't think Coste is good, you must be that asshole Patty G.

A couple of months ago when Coste was down in the minors and Skeeter mentioned that he said a prayer every night for the wronged catcher, I suggested Skeeter build a shrine or a church to San Cristobal Coste degli Phillies. If you trade him away for crap like Ensberg, you're just begging the baseball gods to visit great and miserable plagues upon this team (again).

Jacobin said...

On the other hand, perhaps it would appease the baseball gods to send Coste to another team where he will get to play regularly without the lingering specter of a sudden an unwarranted demotion. But would another fan base embrace him as he has been embraced by those of us who root for the Phillies? I'm sure he'd be liked by other fans, but I don't think the connection and admiration would be as great as it is in Philadelphia. In many ways, Coste is a fit allegory for Philadelphia fandom. Coste has had a dream and he has stuck to it even though many would have given up years ago (considering how the Phillies have been over their history, it's arguable that the fans should have given up at some point). Then when he finally gets a chance in spring training, he makes the most of it only to be denied and sent back to minor league purgatory. His reprieve is to be called back up later last year and he goes on to hit over .300 to aid the club in its second half surge. The reward for this is to be relegated back to the minors after our genius GM acquires Werth and Barajas (crap and more crap). This guy could have packed it in and let it get to him, but back he comes again still producing despite the adversity. Because of all the bullshit that he's been put through here, the fans love him even more. If you ship him elsewhere, some of the inherent romance that is to be found in baseball will be lost from the situation. Therefore keeping him in Philadelphia and on the major league roster seems to be the poetic and proper thing to do.

GM-Carson said...

Not only is Coste a feel-good story, he's a helluva catcher too. The man is easy to root for and has done everything he can done given the opportunity to prove himself. Philly already has the underdog movies of Rocky and Invincible...why not "Catching the Dream" as well?

GM-Carson said...

Jacobin- what the hell got into you man? You went all "poetic" and "romantic" on us...well done!

Corey said...

a-ah-ah-a-men.

Jacobin said...

Sorry, I have too much free time right now and sometimes my undergrad literature degree influence sneaks out. My day-time ramblings will be slowing down though. I start my new job on Wednesday, and damn will it be nice to get an actual paycheck for the first time in about three years!

GM-Carson said...

Jacobin- you better still visit us GM's.

Apparently the Braves just landed Tex and Mahay for a package centered around Salty. F'n Braves!

Jacobin said...

I'll keep visiting, it will just have to normally be outside the hours of 8 to 5. I'm thinking my new boss wouldn't appreciate it if I were posting on here instead of putting the bad guys behind bars.

Ha! The Braves get Teixeira for their two top prospects? Good for the Rangers. I don't care that the Braves added him, what sucks is the Braves have also added some bullpen help. Sure, Tex has put up some nice numbers so far in his career... and you can call me cavalier, but screw the Braves. By adding a bat, all they do is help make up for the shit performance Adruw Jones is putting up in his contract year. This does not fix the Braves, nor does it put their offense in the same argument with the kind of runs that can and are generated by the Phillies.

This drains talent from the Braves farm system and commits them to having to re-sign this guy, which will cost a ton of money (his agent is everybody's favorite imp Scott Boras). Is Teixeira a nice bat for Atlanta? Hell yes it is. But he's been a nice bat for the Rangers the last few years and how well has that worked out? Screw Atlanta, and screw Teixeira.

CLARE. said...

Not only is Coste a feel-good story, he's a helluva catcher too.

Totally agree with you, Carson. Coste can really call a game, keeps his pitchers calm, and frames questionable pitches beautifully.

Bob D said...

Rumors say the Phils may acquire Pirate lefty relief specialist Marte and his under 2.00 ERA. That would be a great move as he would join the ranks of being a Phucco. He also would shore up the bullpen and make our lefty duo of Romaro and Marte very very good. Something that has been lacking all year. Our rightys will be decent to good with Myers, Gordon, Mesa, Alfonseco, and Geary.

As for who to cut from the bench: I would go with Barajas only if Werth will fill in at 3rd catcher. If not then Helms should go since No-Hit Nunez can play 2b/ss/3b. Although now Gooch can play 2b/ss making Nunez disposable just like a smelly diaper.

GM-Carson said...

Pirates Marte to Phils?
Pirates lefty reliever Damaso Marte, who is drawing lots of trade interest, has not allowed a hit in his last 30 appearances against lefthanded batters. Lefties are hitting .080 against him this year, and, yes, the Phillies have noticed. Marte threw 11/3 scoreless innings yesterday.

Bob D said...

LA Angels need a catcher with Napoli hurt. They currently have unproven Mathis and Budde as catchers. This just 7 days after trading Molina to Yanks. Lets send Barajas away to them for a bag of peanuts.

GM-Carson said...

The Angels have a deep farm system. I'm sure we could pry away a someday useful positional player or reliever for Barajas. Gillick needs to be working that phone trying to get the deal done with them.

How about this trade scenario: Ian Snell and Damaso Marte to the Phils for Bourn and a one of our pitching prospects (Outman,Carasco, etc.)...would you do it? I would!

Corey said...

carson, your writing is great. you should submit your stuff to the inquirer or yahoo! and see if they will publish it.

Jacobin said...

Trading for Snell and Marte for Bourn and a prospect? Hmm... I'd be more likely to make the trade than not (though it really puts pressure on resigning Rowand). And if anyone wants Barajas, we should ship him out yesterday for anything that doesn't have a bigger contract (what we get in return need not have a pulse).

But what makes you think the Pirates will part with Snell and Marte?

GM-Carson said...

Marte and Snell have been rumored to be on the trade market. I'd do a Bourn/Carasco/Yoel Hernandez package for the Pitt duo. Marte and Snell would both be around next season too.

Corey, you and most others on here know I go to mlbtraderumors.com and foxsports.com for my rumor info...so I don't always feel the need to site my sourses. I wasn't trying to suggest/trich anybody into thinking it was my own writing.

GM-Carson said...

The Braves may not be done bolstering their club as the rumor mill is buzzing with Dotel to Braves. That's Dotel, Tex, and Mahay in one day...damn!

My homeboy Jayson Stark is reporting Phils are close on Kyle Lohse...doesn't have quite the same ring as Atlanta's acquistions.

Jacobin said...

Atlanta picking up Dotel would be larger to me than them getting Teixeira. And if we trade anything of real value for Lohse, I'll be feeling ill. Lohse is 6-12 with a 4.58 ERA. He's got no intangible great veteran presence to add to the team, so I really don't see how this guy is a huge step up from the kind of outings we've gotten from J.D. Durbin as a starter. I'm all for improving the pitching, but I'd like an actual improvement.

BENTZ said...

SI.com is reporting Kyle Lohse to the Phillies has happened. The trade was for a "prospect." Anyone have any idea on the prospect?

michael said...

They gave up 23 year-old Double A southpaw Matt Maloney.

Jacobin said...

Maloney had good numbers last year at Lakewood, but I'll confess that I don't know much about him.

michael said...

per mlb trade rumors:

Wayne Krivsky did well here, as Maloney was the Phillies' ninth best prospect entering the seasona according to Baseball America. He's more about deception and pitch selection than velocity or electric stuff. His upside is pegged as a #4 starter.

being ranked as the phils 9th best prospect doesn't say a whole lot to me seeing as the farm system as a whole isn't too good. the dude could be the next gavin floyd but definately not the next cole hamels..so eh, in my opinion its a worthless trade.

GM-Carson said...

A 4.58 era as a starter pitching for Cincy is ok. Lohse has a bad won/loss record because of horrible run support. I do believe he is an upgrade over JD Durbin, if only slightly. Durbin probably ticketed for long relief now with Condrey or Geary going to Ottawa. Maloney very well may become a 4th/5th starter in a year or two, but "prospects" are hard to judge/evaluate, especially ones that aren't "can't miss" which Maloney isn't.

*Mets are set to acquire Luis Castillo for 2nd base.

Corey said...

good breakdown over at phuturephillies.com

SirAlden said...

Kyle Lohse is a significant upgrade over both Durbin and Eaton and keeps him away from the Mets, so it is a double move.

"The New York Post reported that the Mets could take a run at Kyle Lohse after the dealine by hoping he clears waivers and can be dealt without another club claiming him. Other pitchers who could be moved in that scenario, the Post reported, are White Sox righty Jose Contreras and Baltimore's Steve Trachsel."

He is a better exerienced 4-5 guy than Conteras, Trachel, and Jennings. This is not an ace. The key with this guy is to yank him with the long reliever if he is not on his game.

Giving up Matt Maloney, is significant, however they have about a dozen minor league pitchers of this value at the moment.

http://phuturephillies.com/
"Maloney, Matt, LHP (age 23) Grade = B
On paper, Maloney should be an A++. He put up a sparking 2.03 ERA in 168.2 IP in 2006, allowed only 120 hits and struck out 180 batters, en route to helping lead the Blueclaws to the SAL title. However, there are some problems, in my view. First, he was 22 the entire year, on the high end of the prospect spectrum. College pitchers should dominate at low A, and Maloney did. The second problem, which ties in with the third, is his walk rate. He walked 73 in the 168.2 IP, which is a lot of walks. This ties in with the third problem, his mediocre stuff. He has a deceptive delivery (but it looks max effort to me, which could be a problem), and he relies on his slow curveball to get outs. The problem is, at higher levels, batters are less likely to swing at breaking balls out of the zone. Most guys with fringe stuff are pinpoint control guys, like Kevin Slowey and Jeremy Sowers, and scouts even question their success at higher levels. For a guy with an 86-89 MPH fastball, even for a lefty, I think he’s going to need to really refine his control at the higher levels, or he’s going to hit a wall quickly."

It shows that the Phillies believe they can make a run this year. These are shrewed, mature moves. Adding Tadahito Iguchi (the best 2B man available at low cost) to the best 4-5 starter available without giving up the future, is good news for the franchise.

These are not automatic slam dunk moves, there must be a bit of luck with these things for post seasons to be achieved, but I am very happy with both moves.

Do not forget that the trade of little Dubee, should foreshadow and portend bomber Dubee's departure (and the non-stop random injuries to the pitching staff) this winter.

Stand Pat just did. He stood Pat. He did not give up anything projected to be significant to our future, and acquired two average-above average pieces for this year.

GM-Carson said...

I'm working on a Kyle Lohse post now...should be up shortly.

GM-Carson said...

Nevermind, Corey is already working on one.

BenJah said...

in 2002, when i was living in philly and working at the zoo, i went to a bunch of games and kyle lohse pitched during the game i saw against the twins. it was his rookie year and i remember kalas going on and on about how much potential this guy had. he must have rambled on for 30 minutes about how good lohse's slide-step is. he got hammered on the mound that day, as i was getting hammered in the 500 level.

Bob D said...

Bad trade. I'd rather have Maloney, and Durbin is probably just as good. However considering Eaton's ERA and W-L record, Lohse will probably end up with a 7-3 record for the Phils and thier high octane offense.

GM-Carson said...

Lohse's era is better than Eaton's, Durbin's, and Moyer's. The Cit is pretty much equal to Cincy's ballpark, so I don't see a big difference in that aspect. Basically what I'm trying to say is that Lohse should do well here. If Gavin Eaton can have 9 wins with a 5.5+ era, than Kyle Lohse can notch some victories with a run lower era.

Durbin may have a future in Philly, but he still has a lot of things to figure out. Maloney was an ok prospect, but Lohse gives us a better opportunity to win this season and the Phils are close in this playoff hunt (3.5 back of Mets, 1.5 back of Wild Card).

SirAlden said...

Release Werth or Nunez or Helms.

CORRECT CORRECT CORRECT.

Ah...I smell roses and fresias in here... must be...!? Yes!

Gm-Carson just farted.

GM-Carson said...

Helms won't be released, he's under contract for next season yet. Can't release Nunez, need his defense. Werth can be cut though, he sucks!!

Jacobin said...

We'll have to see how Lohse plays out. I'm not wowed by the trade, nor am I sickened by it. I caught a bit of 610 while I was running to the store and Eskin seems to think that the Braves acquisition of Teixeira is akin to snagging a young Mickey Mantel for nothing... but that Burger King asshole does nothing but hate on the Phillies, so I'd guess the Teixeira trade is just what I felt in the first place... who gives a shit.

Jacobin said...

I thought Michael Vick was despicable, but now I read about a Mets fan killing his mother and I know there is yet another reason to hate the Mets.

Bob D said...

Jacobin, who lost the game for the Mets? Maybe he should be charged as well.

Not good, Victorino got hurt and Bourn got hurt. I'm not sure if it is serious or not but Bourn did stay in the game.

Jarex said...

Wonder what the line up will look like tomorrow. Nunez batting 2nd?

Jacobin said...

Cole had a nice game and finally gets his 12th win. The team wins against stiffer competition than it has faced the last six games. The Mets and Braves were off tonight, so picking up a win is a nice way to shave that half game off the Mets' lead and add a half game to the distance between us and the Braves. But that's the good news...

How many injuries is this team going to suffer this year? Bourn and Victorino go down on the same night?!? WTF!!! Is Dobbs our right fielder now? I mean, what is going on? This is getting to be beyond ludicrous. Could we catch a frigging break, please?

das411 said...

....NOW who wants to just let Werth go after the Phils damn near lose two OFers in one game??

dumbass!!

GM-Carson said...

If we lose Vic that really hurts. He was a huge part of the offense in the 2-hole. With him and Utley both out of the lineup, I'm not sure who we'll cope. Bourn may be out for a 15 day spell too...things are looking bad! If one of Vic/Bourn are disabled then it makes the Werth activation from the DL easy. I'd be trying to find a cheap 4th outfielder if I were Gillick though just in case, because Werth does not inspire confidence.

Great game pitched by Hamels.

Iguchi is a nice little player.

If I'm Gillick, I offer Fence-Face 3 years 21 million with an option for a 4th year at 9 or a 1 million dollar buyout.