Wednesday, April 18, 2007

Chris Coste

The Phillies outsmarted themselves this spring. And good for their ego, "themselves" are probably the only people they could outsmart. The "brain trust" put many jagged pieces together to make this puzzle of a bench: a right fielder who can also play catcher (Werth), a lefthanded hitter who can play the corners and the outfield (Dobbs), a utility infielder (Nunez), a speedy outfielder designated to run and play late-inning defense (Bourn) and a split-duty catching system. Sounds great. So great that they don't even need a .300 hitting utility man. You remember Chris Coste, don't you?

Chris Coste, that guy who hit .3-freaking-28 last year. The guy who waited until his mid-thirties to reach the show. The guy who provided energy, dependability, verstatility, and some clutch hitting in the Phils' chase for the Wild Card last year. The guy who currently is sitting in Ottawa, pissed off, trying to figure how he essentially lost his job...

"It's easily the lowest moment of my career,'' Coste told the Philadelphia Daily News. "Frustrating. Disappointing. Heartbreaking. You name it. It feels like I was given a lottery ticket and someone stole it right out of my hands."
There's a good chance Coste will be back with the Phillies this year. Not because the bench sucks (the 5 bench players are a combined 10-58 for a cool .172 average) because we all know no one loses their job for being bad, but somebody is likely to get hurt and a dependable utility man who can hit over .300 might be deemed useful again.

Of course, there's also a chance he may never see Broad & Pattison again. If he does't, he could go down in history as the Gin Blossoms of the Phillies. Like Coste's great season, the Gin Blossoms had one great album, New Miserable Experience, with a few great songs and top ten hits, and then were basically never heard from again. One hit wonders are a dime a dozen but one album wonders, like one season wonders on the diamond, are rare and often tragic. The Gin Blossoms lead singer killed himself after recording the album, Chris Coste ended up with the Phillies. Like I said, tragic.

Coste ended his interview with the Daily News by saying, "It's very painful not to be wanted by your own team after last year."

Sickening...
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Last Night's Game
- More of the same: 23 LOB.
- It seems as if Carlos Ruiz coudn't throw Stephen Hawking out trying to steal second.
- Did anyone else get the feeling we were watching a rehab start last night? Lieber is in the bullpen, it is 30 degrees outside, the team is slumping and the Phils used the game basically as a rehab start for Garcia. We should all thank the Phillies for wasting our time...
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Manuel v Burger King
Let's get it on!
Here are some links:
Bugs & Cranks
Beerleaguer
More on this as we hear it. Hopefully the video will end up on YouTube, if there is one.

Corey

55 comments:

GM-Carson said...

First off- I've heard rumors that Hawking has nitro boosters in that motorized-piece of his, so lets cut Chooch some slack.

Secondly- I know this is unpopular, but I almost booed Ryan Howard last night. All he does is walk or strikeout...how about actually getting a hit, I'm not asking for a homerun (Mr. 58), I'm asking for a freakin' single with runners on base for crying out loud.

Third- Our bullpen sucks. I just had to throw that in there. Geary was the one guy I wasn't worried about, well his WHIP now stands at 1.80...c'mon now!

Fourth- Manuel challenged Howard Eskin to a fight...I hope they kill each other! Milt Thompson supposedly had to restrain Charlie, and he was heard yelling "we're going to win!" from his office. Question- Exactly when the hell do you plan on winning there Fuqua?

BloodStripes said...

I think i need to rant on this one because nothing pisses me off more about the Phils than his demotion. Gillick is a complete and utter bastard for turning his back on Coste. He must dislike him because he never gave him a look-in. Last year he produced at the plate, caught a great game and was liked by all his team-mates. He did everything you'd want from a rookie. Yet he has been given the flick. A couple of pitchers specifically asked Fuqua to have him catch them for fucks sake. His presence was a lift for the team. The most experienced rookie ever.

Fuck Gillick, Fuck Fuqua, fuck the owners, fuck 'em all. They are fucking everything up.

GM-Carson said...

Thank you for that rant BloodStripes, bloody-hell my man!

I understand bringing in a catcher through free agency as insurance in case the Ruiz/Coste tandem wouldn't have worked out. But it could have been a Paul Bako/Yorvit Torrelaba type guy, not multi-million dollar turd-torpedo Rod Barajas. So many mistakes Gillick has made, and we wonder why we're sitting at 3-9 on the season on the brink of disaster.

Corey said...

carson, can you link up to the article talking about manuel and the Burger King. i need to read that.

GM-Carson said...

Showdown- Charles Fuqua Manuel vs. Howard "Burger King" Eskin http://bugsandcranks.com/philadelphia-phillies/charlie-manuel-challanges-radio-host-to-a-fight/

Manuel needs to be shit-canned, plain and simple.

goDuke said...

I'd pay money to see Manuel and Eskin actually duke it out. Manuel would destroy Eskin and that would be fine with me. Eskin is a peice of crap. Can't stand him. On occasion he's right, but I'd still like to see Fuqua vs. Eskin on celebrity boxing.

GM-Carson said...

I'd love to see Fuqua vs. Eskin in a celebrity DEATH MATCH...and I'm not talking claymation either.

BloodStripes said...

I'd rather Coste than the turd torpedo (LOL. thats great). But as well as having Coste to catch, he would probably be a better option at the hot corner than butcher Helms. Am I being unrealistic? What the fuck are the Phils doing? The man oughtta be in the show.

BloodStripes said...

I wanna see Charlie cop one in the nuts.

Corey said...

like the phillies have an abundance of .300 hitting bench players. the bench is 10-58! that is nunez-esque bad. maybe my hunger strike should include coste's return to the majors, along with fuqua's firing.

my friends and i were once "politely asked" by security to leave the lower level of the Spectrum during the A-10 basketball tournament for making physical threats against the Burger King when he walked out of the tunnel. career hilight for me as a heckler, even topping the time brandon duckworth flicked me off from the bullpen scaffolding at the vet. memories...

GM-Carson said...

Brandon Duckworth now pitches for the AL equivalent of the Phillies...the K.C. Royals.

Corey said...

KC now the only team with a worse record than the Phightin Phuquas...

GM-Carson said...

K.C. has played more games, give the Phils a chance and they too could be just as shitty.

Dave Kingman said...

Carson, I agree with you that Cholly should go but it seems that you give lame ass Gillick a free ride. Why? Tell me one move he made that really has worked out? This may sound crazy but Gillick has made worse moves than Wade.

michael said...

"A moment symbolic of the dreadful start to the season for the Phillies (3-9) came in the sixth inning. Geoff Geary struck out Glavine with two outs. But all nine players on the field held their ground, oblivious to the fact that the inning was over."

that shit makes me want to weep. as much as i don't like charlie i would love to see him knock eskin out. i would liken that fight to the south park episode where jimmy and timmy fight (cripple fight!) the wheels are coming off and charlie knows time is almost up and its starting to really show. and dave you are crazy i dont think gillick has made worse moves than wade..but give it time. also every team gillick has GM'ed has gone down the toilet after he left. eek!

Moe Ville said...

Eskin is an asshole. The only thing worse than his show is listening to the Wheeler pre-game with Fuqua. The most painful five minutes in radio. Girly-man Eskin would probably fight dirty but it still has HBO written all over it.

BENTZ said...

Here's Gillick's problem with Coste.

Gillick is an old-school scout. There's 3 ways as a GM to run a team. The "Moneyball way" (Boston, Toronto, Oakland), the "scout" way (Phillies, other teams with "old school" GMs) and the guys that actually look at the whole puzzle and fit in pieces where needed (Atlanta for example). Gillick as a scout looks at Coste and doesn't measure his stats as the first group of GMs would. The third GM would see his influence on the team and the chemistry and keep him. But the second group looks at his age and sees "flash in the pan."

Not defending Gillick at all, he's dead wrong on this. Barajas should have never been signed and that money should've gone to Baez or Bradfod or any decent reliever. But I don't think he hates Coste or anything, I think the scout in him just doesn't buy into it.

GM-Carson said...

Kingman- not to be an asshole, but I've been bashing Gillick on here for quite some time. In fact, just last week a did a piece on "Gillick's Worst Move" with a poll included for voting. I don't foresee Gillick being fired now, just doesn't make sense in season, but Manuel is an easy axe. Yes, Gillick failed to make the bullpen better, has traded away some quality players and got nothing in return, and is currently making the mistake of keeping Manuel in charge of managing.

McD said...

Where is the sense of urgency with this team? Last night had the feel of an early spring training game. The players just do not seem to care. Where are the signs of frustration?

And yes, the front office sure showed how brilliant it was in overpaying Barajas to come here and not produce. Sometimes I think this team WANTS to fail!

Go Phils!

GM-Carson said...

Gillick is a piss-poor talent evaluator. The players he acquires are "athletes", but their skills don't necessarily translate into production on the field. He wants fast, muscular, "5 tool" players, but they end up being simply just tools.

I am pissed right now, and have been all season. No way the Phils record should be 3-9. How much longer will we sit here waiting for something to be done to address our dismal situation? That's why I want Manuel fired. That's why I want Ryan Madson released. That's why I want the phone lines of 610 am to blow-up with calls bashing Gillick for taking a team on the brink of the postseason and turning it into a complete shit-pile.

GM-Carson said...

I'm waiting for the fans to start booing every single player on the team and start throwing stuff/trash on the field like they have at times at Wrigley. Screw everyone!

michael said...

Where are the signs of frustration?

people tend to say this a lot in this town when teams aren't doing well. honestly though what do you want them to do? every strike out or screw up break a bat over their thigh or throw some big fit? then everyone would be saying how big of douche bags they look like. it would be embarrassing. i'm not defending how they played last night because they looked like they just stepped on the field for the first time. but to completely blow up every time you make a mistake can quickly snow ball into more mistakes.

Dave Kingman said...

Carson, why wait for the off season? Let the new GM bring in his manager. There are important trades to be made at the deadline such as trading Garcia for real prospects, do you want Gillick pulling the same shit he did with Abreu/Lidle? We both know the reason, because in the off season they will name no ass talent as a player or assistant GM Amaro Jr. as GM. This franchise is F#@&ed.

GM-Carson said...

I hate Charles Fuqua Manuel. He's a bumbling backwood bumpkin that is nothing more than a hitting instructor. He should never have been given the Phils job. Now is the perfect time to hand him his walking papers. It can't get any worse, and we might as well try a new skipper to see if it can actually get better.

I'd like Gillick to be gone as well, but not if that means Ruben Amaro Jr. taking over.

We have talented solo acts on 25 man roster, than need a leader to make them play as a team and a GM that gets them the missing parts.

GM-Carson said...

I can't quit the Phillies. They're in my blood. I know that sounds corny, but that's how much I live and die with this organization. That's why I'm so pissed off right now. "Things will get better"...bullshit! "It's a marathon not a sprint"...bullshit! Quit giving me a bunch of played out sayings to try and solace me, it's not working. The only thing that will work is if changes are made and winning starts happening.

GM-Carson said...

Chase Utley needs to worry about saving the offense not the ozone layer, leave that shit to Al Gore.

Ryan Howard needs to worry about making "contact" not a "contract".

Bob D said...

May the battle for last place begin.
Philly -vs- the Nats
7PM tonight in Washington DC

Maybe Cholly will lose his plane ticket and Williams or Lopez will manage. There maybe hope yet! Maybe even a 2 game winning streak for the first time this year.

Bob D said...

A fire sale may help like last year, just do it before May.
Trade off:
Madson
Lieber
Rowand
Gordon
Alfonseco
Helms
Barajas
Manuel's stapler
And the Phanatics ATV

Dave Kingman said...

Bob D, I agree they need to make trades but who on that list really has value? I say trade Garcia at the deadline for real prospects. Carson I've followed the Phillies for thirty years but this is about as bad as I can remember. I really thought this team had a chance but not any more.

GM-Carson said...

The Phillies have had some horrible years over my 27 years of existence, but this team SHOULD be winning which makes losing even tougher to swallow. If we had the D-Rays pitching staff and the Royals offense I would be mad, but not nearly as mad. No way this team should be 3-9 right now, with no signs of improvement. We need someone to come in and get all the parts fitting together and playing like a team. Teams pick each other up, not walk 1 million times per game and leave 2 billion men on base...dammit!

furiousBall said...

Sad effort last night, pitiful.

Ruiz looked like Mickey Hatcher when he had that psychological problem throwing the ball back there.

The bullpen is dogshit. I'm removing my offer made earlier to trade one bag of dogshit for the entire staff of relievers - that would be overpaying.

I disagree about getting upset with Ryan for walking with the bases loaded. Burrell has to hit there. Glavine was pitching to Ryan, but he only threw one hittable pitch in that sequence. That's where Pat has to hit, that's what protection is all about.

I'd pay money for a Charlie-Eskin fight. I'd actually pay more for that than Phillies tickets.

GM-Carson said...

When WIP's Howard Eskin asked if it's time to pull a Lou Piniella and throw a fit and then challenged Charlie Manuel's answer, the skipper, feeling provoked, obliged like never before during his three seasons as Phillies manager. “I can show you I can get angry,” said Manuel, who has been heavily criticized by Eskin for his managerial skills and southern slang. “Why don't you come on by my office?” “OK, I'd be happy to,” Eskin responded with a smirk. “I'll be waiting on you,” Manuel said. “Maybe if you did that to a player,” Eskin countered. “Come on in there ... I'll walk right now there right now,” Manuel said. Manuel then left the podium and headed for his office, then hung out at his office door until seeing Eskin, who walked in. The door slammed shut, then Manuel went off for almost five minutes. And when it ended, Manuel reappeared a few minutes later in the clubhouse and walked straight toward Eskin, who mocked Manuel by laughing. “I've been listening to your [bleep] for three [bleeping] years,” Manuel shouted. “Grow up,” Eskin responded. “I've been grown up,” Manuel said. “I grew up a long [bleeping] time ago, you [bleep].” “You shouldn't be mad at me, Charlie,” Eskin said. “You should be mad at [the players].” Before anything became physical, bullpen catcher Milt Billmeyer whisked Manuel out of the clubhouse to a back room.

GM-Carson said...

Brett Myers said Friday after his last start that he had pitched more like a Chihuahua and less like a Rottweiler. Problem solved. "I went to Taco Bell and I ate the Chihuahua," the Phillies hurler said before last night's game against the New York Mets at Citizens Bank Park. Executives at Yum! Brands (the parent company of Taco Bell) will be shocked to learn of the demise of their spokesdog. But Phillies fans outnumber Chihuahua fans at the moment - at least locally - so it seems a good thing that Myers thinks he has his mojo back. Myers is 0-2 with a 15.26 ERA in his last two starts, and the Phillies desperately need him to bounce back Friday in a series opener in Cincinnati.

Dave Kingman said...

Carson, do you think anything will change with this geriatric bunch of sad ass owners in charge? The fans need to boycott this team so that they will lose $ and sell to an owner who cares about winning!

GM-Carson said...

Kingman- you're making good points, I agree with them. In fact, just as was the case with your Gillick comment, indeed yesterday we had a discussion on here about how the ownership is a sham and screws things up too. Blame can be spread around- owners are at fault, Gillick is at fault, Manuel is at fault, and the players are at fault, one big shitfest right now brotha.

Dave Kingman said...

By the way Carson I like your idea of Glanville as GM. Someone also mentioned John Russell as manager that sounds like an improvement too.

Jacobin said...

Eskin is a tool and Manuel is a cowpoke at the Double "R" Tard Ranch. The both of them can go fight wherever they want, hopefully they'll cause enough trouble that we'll never have to deal with either again.

What Gillick did with Coste is disgusting from an emotional standpoint and moronic from a more analytical approach. You have a player in the organization who is not making a great amount of money, has a strong work ethic, and hit .328 last season during a playoff push. So of course you replace him with the Canadiense statistical version of Sal Fasano. And we're told that Jason Werth can catch on occasion (because he sure as hell isn't hitting or catching anything in left field).

But this is Philadelphia front office thinking. The fans want Coste on the team. The fans want Fuqua riding the short bus to unemployment. Of course the fans get neither of these things because the fans are morons.

A$$hole$.

Dave Kingman said...

How about a tag team match. George the Animal Steele (aka Uncle Cholly) and Captain Cannibis (aka Rich Dubee) versus Eskin and Cataldi?

GM-Carson said...

I'm so fired up right now that I think I could win the Royal Rumble against the entire organization and media. I could really mess somebody up right now. The Phils are pitiful, yet nothing is being changed. How long must we wait? Just get rid of Manuel now, whether it's his fault or not, just make a change.

Dave Kingman said...

Guys I think we should change this forum to all Pirates for the duration of the season, at least they had no expectations.

GM-Carson said...

The fricken Buccos are 6-6. That's 6 wins...the Phils may not accomplish that in the entire month of April.

GM-Carson said...

From my homeboy Jayson Stark: "• The Phillies are a mess: Are the Phillies, officially, the biggest bust of 2007? They still haven't won two games in a row -- and the only other team that can say that is the Royals. They're 3-9 -- and only two NL teams since the Bobby Thomson Giants have started 3-9 or worse and made the postseason ('74 Pirates, 2000 Giants). Not one guy in their bullpen has shown any semblance of dependability. And Ryan Howard and Chase Utley are 5-for-32 (.156) with runners in scoring position. Charlie Manuel may take the fall one of these months if this keeps up. But he wasn't given a talented enough team to live up to the inflated expectations that surrounded this group. Baseball Prospectus' Joe Sheehan said it best: The dropoff from the top 11 players on this team to the rest of the roster is steeper than most people seemed to notice."

Dave Kingman said...

Carson, have you ever considered becoming a Mets fan, LOL.

Dave Kingman said...

Latest rumor Ryan Madson for Anna Benson, since her husband Kris is injured. At least she would make the losing pleasant on the eyes.

GM-Carson said...

Wasn't Anna Benson in Penthouse? Sweet!

McD said...

Manuel must go! Viva La Revolution!

GM-Carson said...

Some thoughts:

*I'm sticking by my prediction and still going with 92 wins and a World Series Championship for the Phils this season. Manuel's fight challenge is going spark life.

*Ryan Madson has worked out his kinks as evident by his 1.1 innings of scoreless baseball last night.

*Gillick is going to manuever Lieber into a quality relief pitcher because starting pitchers are breaking down left and right.

*Brett Myers is still going to win 20 games.

*Ryan Howard is going to go on a 5 game homerun binge.

*Corey and my hungry strike will starve us to death.

*I'm dellusional.

Corey said...

i've got this song stuck in my head...

i'll try to find some video and post it soon. i have to say, i feel bad for uncle retard. this pitiful excuse for a team is not entirely his fault. sure, he's to blame for some and should be fired, but he's likely going to take the majority of the heat. but i guess that is the life of a professional sports manager.

fans said...

WOW- Lieber as starter and Myers to bullpen!!

Jacobin said...

Myers to the bullpen? Not as the closer, but as a setup guy? WTF is this team doing...

Our "ace" is now a middle reliever. This isn't the NFL, we shouldn't be playing for a draft pick.

GM-Carson said...

Just heard on around the horn that the Phillies lead MLB with 122 runners left on base...and they've only played 12 f'n games!

Manuel isn't solely to blame, but he's certainly part of the proble, so off with his head.

Wait, are you guys fucking with me? Did we just move our supposed #1 to the bullpen? We are idiots!!!

fans said...

Someone on comcast sportsnet just said this was done to let Manuel make a HUGE move. He'll either be looked at as a brillant guy or will be out of a job.

GM-Carson said...

Shoot me now!

Jacobin said...

Fucking Fuqua made the Myers move?

MLB.com has the following:
Manager Charlie Manuel said that Myers will pitch in the late innings as a setup reliever and could be the closer on days when Tom Gordon, the regular closer, is unavailable.

The Phillies believe that the right-handed Myers should be better suited to relief work than Lieber because of his power arm. Myers, 26, is 0-2 with a 9.39 in three starts, allowing 15 hits and striking out 19 in 15 1/3 innings.


Maybe the next step will be playing Howard at short and letting Barajas lead off.

GM-Carson said...

This is seriously unbelievable. Why is Manuel allowed to make any decisions? He can't even tie his own shoes...the man uses velcro and still screws up. He shouldn't even be the manager right now, let alone making a momumentally horrid decision like this.