Tuesday, February 20, 2007

The Fuqua Is Spreading

In an interview documented earlier this week in the Daily News by Marcus Hayes, Ryan Howard was asked if it would be good for baseball if admitted steriod user Barry Bonds broke the all-time homerun record held by baseball icon Henry Aaron. His answer, at least to me, was rather both disappointing and C. Fuqua Manuel-like stupid. His response:

Why not? Has he been tested positive? Has it come up that he's tested positive? Has there been anything in the newspaper where it said he's positive? On steroids? There's no hardcore, positive yes that he's tested positive for steroids?... I'm simple. Either you've tested positive or you haven't. If he hasn't tested positive, then, yeah [it would be good]. Definitely.
When you are the first player to come close to Roger Maris that is not suspected of using steroids, it probably would be wise to avoid supporting, and as Hayes said giving "implicit endorsements," to known steroid users. It is especially disconcerting given that Hayes wrote that "on virtually every [other] topic, he supplied the same, benign answers he issued last season." Couldn't he just continue the benign answers? Why pick steroids to get aggressively defensive? I'm afraid I may not be the only person to ask this sort of question, especially if he gets close to 60 homers again...

The other reason this quote bothers me is that it is absolutely retarded. Does he really think Barry Bonds didn't take steroids? He did say he was "simple," but that would be beyond "simple," that would be borderline "Fuqua." Also, Howard implies that it is good for baseball because there is no proof that Bonds took steriods. Problem is, Bonds admitted to taking steroids, under the guise that he thought they were "flaxseed oil" and "arthritis balm." Got some other bad news for you Ryan; the world is round, Elvis is dead, OJ did it, and neither Santa or the Easter Bunny are real.

Corey

27 comments:

GM-Carson said...

I wish Howard would have just pussy-footed around the questions if he felt this way about Bonds. I'm not saying he can't feel/think what he does in regards to the entire Bonds situation, just don't vocalize it numbnuts!

And Corey- Santa is to real...don't go screwing with my head bro.

GM-Carson said...

I've said this before, and I'll say it again, I think the Phils should sign Bernie Williams to a 1 year 1 million dollar deal.

He'd be a great 5th outfielder. His defense isn't too good, but the man can still hit. I'd rather have him pinch-hitting and spot starting than Karim Garcia or Chris Roberson. And let's not forget, it's been 2 seasons since Jayson Werth last played MLB.

GM-Carson said...

My brother-in-law better have secured some opening day tix this morning. I've been to tons of games over my lifetime, but never an opening day.

goDuke said...

The article about Rollins on philly.com is good. I like the leadership. Go Phils!

GM-Carson said...

Some people think Rollins should keep his yap shut, I on the other hand encourage this type of smack talk. I know the game is played on the field, but showing confidence to the world is a good thing, because the Phils need to play confident like they expect to win.

Corey said...

Here is a link to the aforementioned Rollins article.

goDuke said...

I agree 100%, the laid back attitude we've had for years with the Phillies obviously wasn't doing much for them in the win column. Having confidence and challenging themselves is going to pay off this year. I see the style of play from the second half of last season carrying over to this year. I heard the over-under for Phillies total wins is 88 1/2. You gotta put some loot down on the over on that one, (and no way the Mets are better then the Phils... their over under is 89 1/2).

Skeeter said...

I am already wearing my army fatigues. I'm ready to battle any Mets fan.

I get frustrated every time I hear a phan on the radio call up and say they wish Jimmy would be quiet or that he isn't a great leader. For years, we have complained about not having a vocal leader on the team. We now have one, let us embrace it.

michael said...

yuk, the people who call sports talk shows are the biggest bunch of tards. fn' rubes. also carson i think the bernie williams signing wouldn't be a bad one with him atleast you know what your getting it would give a little bit of stability to the bench. get on the phone, make it happen.

GM-Carson said...

There's nothing wrong with what Jimmy is saying. He expects to win, and wants all his teammates on the same page. He's a vocal leader, Chase leads by example, and Nunez sucks! All is right with the world.

For what it's worth, I'm predicting 92 wins this year from the Phils, but that's a post for another day closer to season.

Skeeter said...

93 my man....93

Scotty said...

In regards to Ryan Howard's comments about Bonds' pursuit of Aaron, and just out of pure curiosity, if Bonds had never admitted to the arthritis balm or flaxseed oil, or whatever he said he thought the roids were, would howards comments be an issue??

What I mean is how would you view Bonds' chase of the record if he never admitted it, and never tested positivie for it?

This current issue can be linked to the Maris Chase of the Babe in a way that Maris' record could have had an asterisk placed next to it and to some degree i think it should. In my opinion, at the time Bonds, MacGwire, Sosa, Palmerio, etc. were hitting those home runs, performance enhancing drugs were not outlawed in baseball. Everyone had the opportunity to use them, and those who did saw dramatic increases in their production. Granted there are huge health risks to using these substances, however those guys who used them got PAID. In Maris' case, he played in 8 more games than Ruth did. Ruth did not have that opportunity to play in those 8 games and Maris still only eclipsed him by 1.

Dont get me wrong I do not condone, support, encourage, or enjoy seeing the inflated stats caused by the use of performance enhancing drugs, however who is the bigger idiot here? Is it the guy who uses these drugs at a time when they were not illegal, puts up great numbers, signs huge contracts, and writes his name in the record books or is it the guy who has the opportunity and doesnt take it? In some ways Bonds' and company might be the smart ones. They might have torn up their tickets to the Hall, but they will always be remembered.

GM-Carson said...

I'm far less critical of Bonds and the entire steroids era than my fellow blogger and best friend Corey. I wish it never happened, but it did, and now it's time to move on and render the situation. Bonds is the homerun champ in my opinion and is a remarkable athlete with or without the use of performance enhancers.

goDuke said...

I'm shocked at your attitude towards Bonds. In the immortal words of anyone who's ever gone to a Phillies game (or watched them on TV), "Booooooo! BOOOOOOO!"

furiousBall said...

I wish it was cut and dry as far as Bonds is concerned. I think (mind you this is only my opinion) that all three of the HR monsters used roids (MacGuire, Sosa, and Bonds). I wish they would all admit it. Even if it's proven, the players all seem to plead ignorance claiming they didn't know they took it...over and over again.

As far as Ryan's quote, he's a ballplayer issuing a quote that supports a fellow ballplayer, who technically hasn't tested positively for the substance. I agree with Carson though, just avoid it Ryan, don't put yourself on the same island as that asshat Bonds.

GM-Carson said...

GoDuke- sorry to disappoint you, but I actually don't hate Bonds. I hate David Bell, but not Bonds...go figure. I do wish he'd have stayed clean and gone about his business with his natural god-given ability, which was awesome to begin with.

GM-Carson said...

Phils minor league infielder Danny Sandoval remains in Venezuela, trapped in visa limbo. A Venezuelan warrant for the arrest of a person matching Sandoval's name or appearance is the holdup, Phillies personnel said. More information is expected today, and Sandoval could be in camp by tomorrow.

Oh no, what will we do without our No-Talent-Ass-Clown?!

Scotty said...

Whenever the issue of Barry Bonds and his pursuit of history comes up it saddens me to a point that this man as great of a player as he is will forever have his legacy clouded by steroids.

Had Barry never fell into the steroid trap that was post 1994 strike year baseball, he still would have been a first ballot hall of famer hands down. He has his at least 25 homers a season every year since 1989, excluding last year when he hit 22, while playing most of the season on a bum knee. We know he is capable of hitting 30-40 homers a year without the roids, he could steal bases, and he could run down balls in the outfield (he has 8 Gold Gloves).

I also believe Barry would be closer if not already to 3,000 hits had he avoided roids. He is only 159 hits shy as of today, and he would have gotten more at bats, and gotten more pitches to hit. He has been issued 996 BB since the 2000 season, that almost 2 full seasons worth of ABs that he didnt even get. If he were to hit .250 over those 996 BB that is an additional 249 hits to his credit. that puts him near 3,100.

In Barry's case, by using what talents he was given naturally, he may have had the chance to go down in history as one of the greatest to ever play the game. Now, he will probably go down as the greatest home run hitter ever to play the game but just as many people will remember him for the "alleged" steroid abuse as will for his home run record.

GM-Carson said...

Call me silly, but I think Bonds will still be a 1st ballot hall-of-famer.

Scotty said...

Carson- I am not saying Bonds won't be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer now. I mean he would have been even if he wasn't the all time home run leader. He was great without steroids, he didn't need to pass Hank Aaron to get into the Hall. I think his legacy would have been just as good if not better without the use of steroids, or growth hormone, or arthritis balm.

GM-Carson said...

Instead of looking at a 700+ homerun hitter and 500 stolen base player, we'd be looking at 500 homeruns with increased amount of hits, doubles, and possibly 600-700 stolen bases. To put it simply- still an amazing player.

Scotty said...

Exactly my point, plus the only thing people could talk bad about the man for would be his relationship with the press. He would also probably pass Rickey Henderson's all time run scored record. It would be pretty tough to argue that he is the greatest player of all time with those stats.

Corey said...

i love this conversation about bonds and roids, i could talk about this for days. but i won't. i only want to comment on a few isolated things.

1) i agree with you scotty that you can't really blame the players for taking the roids. health vs baseball immortality???? i think the latter wins, honestly. i will say though, they were illegal at the time, not technically banned by baseball, but a felongy crime in the USA, so you can't say they weren't illegal. also, to the point of "if Bonds had never admitted [using steroids]..." well he did, so hypothesizing the other way is pointless.

2) rickey henderson is GOD. i pray barroid doesn't break is runs record.

GM-Carson said...

Speaking of thee Rickey, he's in came with the hated Mets as a special coordinator.

das411 said...

Bonds is already the greatest player of all time, and only asshole NY sportswriters disagree with that. And maybe Rickey.

And Bonds has NOT admitted any steroid use, those two dickwad journalists who just so happened to have a book to sell could for all we know have been writing crazier science fiction than whatever Dutch Daulton is saying these days. It has been two full seasons since that article was written, Corey, and Bonds has *still* not failed any drug tests.

And even if he DID take steroids from 2001-2003...why did all of his stats (except for at-bats and steals) go up further in 2004?

GM-Carson said...

I know Bonds has never officially failed a drug test during the current testing regulations, but I do think he was juiced. In my mind he's the greatest player of all-time regardless. The entire steroid era sucks, because we will forever be wondering who's clean? and who's dirty? So the way I view it all to have it make sense in my own little mind is that every player was on an equal playing field regardless of what was pumped into their bodies because we don't TRULY know who did and didn't, we can only speculate, even if those speculations are 99% obvious, they're still speculations until proven.

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