Friday, December 08, 2006

Prospects?

I'm a bit miffed this morning at the amount of negativity surrounding Gillick's flop of one turd-torpedo(Gavin Floyd) and one unproven minor league prospect (Gio Gonzalez) for a solid MLB starting pitcher (Freddy Garcia). Do you Phillies fans want to win next season? If so, Floyd and Gonzalez weren't going to help us accomplish that. However, Garcia will because he's better than most of the rotation we strolled out to the mound last season (Lidle, Lieber, Madson, Floyd, and Wolf). So I've got a message to send to the haters- SHUT THE HELL UP!

Gio Gonzalez could end up being a top of the rotation pitcher, or he could suck hind teat like former #1 pick Gavin Floyd. I would be upset if Gillick went out and started trading away all of our promising young players in the system, but this was merely one dude. What the hell is a prospect anyway? Because the player is a prospect you must keep in mind they have the prospect of sucking too. Prospects are so unpredictable, and I've searched my memory for some past Phils who never panned out: Mike Mimbs, Pat Combs, Gavin Floyd, Brandon Duckworth, Wayne Gomes, Mike Grace, Ryan Karp, Reggie Taylor, Ricky Jordan, Wendell Magee, and the list goes on and on. Now, there haven't been nothing but failures in the past because Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, Brett Myers, Jimmy Rollins, Scott Rolen, Mike Lieberthal, Randy Wolf, Pat Burrell, and others have all recently come from the Phils system. My point is that prospects are never "can't miss", prospects are suspects. Therefore, I applaud Gillick for this trade.

On an uplifting note...Stacey's Mom has got it going on!

~Carson

43 comments:

GM-Carson said...

Rumor has it Octavio Dotel is going to sign with the Royals for 1 year 5 mil, and yesterday the Royals got Gil Meche for 5 years 55 mil...Gillick looks more and more like a genius every day.

~Carson

GM-Carson said...

Bonds got 1 year 16 mil from Giants.

Mota (still has to serve drug suspension) got 2 years 5 mil from Mets.

BloodStripes said...

Thats huge money for Meche. I can't believe the dollars floating around right now. Bloody crazy. How good is Mota goin'. Bloody hell! Wish I could get paid 2.5 mil a year for doin' drugs. I thought you get locke up for that shit.

Staceys mum has a beautiful set of eyes. Ah fuck it, may as well speak the truth. She has a beautiful set of tits!

BloodStripes said...

I think from now on it should be mandatory to include a photo of a good sort at the end of each days post. I know it already happens regularly but it really does finish things off nicely. Whatever you have to say Carson, it always seems to read just that little bit better with an ending like that. Good work bro!

GM-Carson said...

yes, Rachel Hunter does indeed have fabulous golden globes.

BloodStripes said...

She gets my award. Congratulations Rachel.

Isn't it amazing what one trade can do to ones feelings about the phuture. I personally feel much better. Are we happy with Gillick now? He's coming good.

GM-Carson said...

I never disliked Gillick, but I am starting to like him now. I'm very anxious to see what he gets in return for Jon Lieber, possibly Aaron Rowand too, and how he fills out the bullpen and bench.

~Carson

BloodStripes said...

The painless signing of Freddy has not only given us a better rotation. It has also given us much leverage in being able to dangle Leiber and Rowand for other needs. The Phils are now in a position of strength.

Leiber for 2 decent bullpen arms would be nice. It won't worry me if Rowand stays. He was playing well until he smashed himself. Those few weeks on the DL stuffed him up. He had trouble regaining his good form nad now finds himself as trade bait.

GM-Carson said...

I'm ok with an outfield of Burrell, Victorino, and Rowand. But adding someone like Ryan Church (a lefty) would be nice.

dane said...

gillick practically stole garcia from the white sox. kenny williams keeps singing the praises of gavin floyd but apparently they didnt scout him and nothing against short pitcher (because I am one) but gonzalez is only 5'9 and other than maybe pedro I can't think of any dominating pitcher under six feet. just think of this: for jim thome and gavin floyd, pat gillick acquired freddy garcia, aaron rowand, and fabio castro. thats pretty impressive

GM-Carson said...

Dane- Fabio Castro is a DOMINATE pitcher under 6 feet (5'7"). He is the Model Dictator after all.

furiousBall said...

Meche's deal is moronic. They must have to kick in an extra $2 mill per year for the fact that he has to play for the Royals.

The only thing that worries me about the Garcia deal (and this is such a Philly fan thing to say) is that I feel too good about it. Remember how we all felt like we stole Millwood from the Braves for Estrada?

GM-Carson said...

I feel differently about this deal (Garcia) then I did in comparison to the Millwood deal. I thought Millwood was a #1 ace of the staff. I'm only looking for Garcia to be a solid innings eater that gives the team a consistent chance to win.

~Carson

chuckm said...

Speaking of prospects, ya gotta like the #'s that rule 5 pickup Jim Ed Warden threw last year in AA

59 IP
2.90 ERA
1.08 WHIP
47 K
BAA .172 (RH .159 LH .187)

He reportedly changed his delivery to a Chad Bradford style underarm delivery and took off last season.
This is def somebody we want to keep an eye on this spring. Cleveland must have a stacked farm to leave somebody with these kind os AA #s unprotected.

furiousBall said...

chuckm...Jim Ed Warden's WHIP is sick. This is that really tall guy right? We haven't had a pitcher that doesn't put guys on base since Schill consistently.

GM-Carson said...

Warden actually has a decent shot at sticking in the pen next season. I believe he's 6'7" and if he indeed does pitch like Chad Bradford (the guy I originally wanted for the pen), then I'm all for giving him a legit shot at making the 25 man roster.

I keep looking at that Rachel Hunter pic...yahtzee!

~Carson

chuckm said...

Warden is 6'7" 195lbs. Seems to be a big beanpole guy who batters have a hard time seeing the ball off of.

furiousBall said...

6'7" 195! He could be Andy Reid's belt.

GM-Carson said...

furiousball- i love your quotes!

buccos are thinking about acquiring that donut-eatin-sonna-bitch (lieber) from the phils...keep it in the state baby. it would be for bullpen help.

~carson

chuckm said...

Carson- I would presume that this BP help would be Mike Gonzalez. Gonzalez has done a good job for the Buccos, but was shut down for the last 5 weeks of 2006 with elbow tendinitis. Maybe I am overreacting but when I see "elbow tendinitis", I tend to think "TJ surgery candidate".

skeeter said...

anybody know anything about what is going on with the mets? their rotation is still nothing... glavine, hernandez, maine. I think that's it as of yet. I hope they get zito so howard can smack the shit out of that junkball throwing california pussy. His fastball barely touches 87. And if they get harden from the A's, we could be in trouble. We should compete either way.

And nice hunter pic...cant complain

GM-Carson said...

Skeeter said- "I hope they get zito so howard can smack the shit out of that junkball throwing california pussy."...f'n classic!!!

Mike Gonzalez may or may not be in the Lieber to Buccos deal. Marte, Capps, are other possibilities Torres.

I like Bloodstripes suggestion of having a tantilizing lady at the end of each post. I won't do it all the time, but I will make sure to include a hottie every now and then.

~Carson

baseballqueen said...

Let me guess ...Elizabeth Shue half naked will be next ...spare me!

GM-Carson said...

damn, trouble with the wife. way to go bloodstripes!

~carson

baseballqueen said...

Ha!

I was going to pick another name, but I knew the "Elizabeth Shue" would give it away!

GM-Carson said...

I blame that bloody mate Bloodstripes for leading me astray...oh who the hell am I foolin'?

You're my boy Bloodstripes!

~Carson

michael said...

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/242-12082006-753302.html

i just wanted to share with you guys probably the dumbest newspaper article of the day. its like the inner thoughts of a retard.

chuckm said...

Michael- That address is incomplete. Would that be the dipshit who was talking about the Phillies getting Bonds

GM-Carson said...

chuckm- the link worked when i copied and pasted it to my address bar, and yes it is the dipshit who wants bonds as a phillie.

BloodStripes said...

Baseball queen. Love it! Gotta watch for the cheese and kisses(Mrs) checkin' up on ya mate. I'm sure I'd get a good clip around the ears for my observations of Rachel Hunters womanhood if my Mrs read that comment. Haha! Good thing she doesn't read this fine blog very often.

That article is just filler. Agreed on it being rather stupid. It says the bloke writes for the Intelligencer. More like the retarder.

BloodStripes said...

Look out! My cheese and kisses just read it. I spoke to soon. I think I'm in the clear though.

Phew! Thought I was in the dog house tonight. No worries, she knows I'm all hers. Good woman my Mrs.

GM-Carson said...

My wife, Baseballqueen, wasn't really upset...thankfully. She knows I'm all her's to, whether she wants me or not.

~Carson

BloodStripes said...

Yeah, sometimes its hard to tell isn't it. Hahaha! I cant believe my Mrs read the blog as soon as I said she wouldn't. Always the way huh? Incredible.

BloodStripes said...

I suppose me sitting here commenting just enticed her to come and have a look while she was checking her emails.

The Phils seemed to do alright with the rule 5 picks. I hope Jim Ed Warden and his funky delivery can make a real go of his chance.

GM-Carson said...

what the hell is with this elisabeth shue business? last time i looked, this was elizabeth shue:

findinggracie.com/gif/elisabeth-shue.jpg

to me, she kind of looks like a dude. i bet david bell thinks she's hot...

just read part of the philliesphans.com thread on the garcia trade. i couldn't get past page one because i vomited all over my keyboard (and it wasn't due to alcohol or that elisabeth shue picture...) those dudes are acting like somebody stole their twelve-sided dice. they all need to get laid....bad....by anyone or anything.

corey

BloodStripes said...

Bunch of poofter sooks! I'm over the joint. They have no waste control. Verbal diarrhoea is spewing out all over the place over there.

I like Carmen better than Shooey. Carmen would be on your list of chicks wouldn't she Corey? Hahaha!!

GM-Carson said...

alyssa milano
jessica alba
keira knightley

that's the list. i told the old lady before we got hitched that if one of those babes comes a callin' for ol' corey, you can keep the house...of course, the odds of that happening are slightly less than gavin floyd becoming a productive major league starter.

had to look up what a "poofter sook" was...very accurate portrayal.

corey

BloodStripes said...

Very good list. Don't discount it happening. You never know your luck in a big city.

Yeah, bunch of whinging David Bells! Like you said they all need a good root. One bloke was cool with the trade though. His comments were pretty cool
so I invited him over to comment here.

BloodStripes said...

Of course, that's not to say we don't like differing opinions here, but they really are over reacting.

GM-Carson said...

differing opinions are what makes the phlogosphere go round. they are a necessity. we here are WSBGM's love when people disagree and argue, it's a lot of fun. the other thing we like is "poofters," and losers who live in their mother's basement and would rather break out their TI-83 graphing calculator to analyze ops+ and vorp instaed of socializing with women. we need these people. we need david bell. because we need people to make fun of. we need more chris wheelers...

corey

BloodStripes said...

ROTFLMAO!!! Haha! Well said.

Some great listening on MLB radio at the moment. A fair bit of Phillie talk. I'm really enjoying this hot stove season. Got myself the Phillies toolbar for IE. Headlines, radio, its great.

GM-Carson said...

I'm hoping Corey posts his "Best Song Parody" for WSBGM's today, because Bohemian Manuel needs a return!

Yesterday's "discussion" on here was great...girls, h-mo's/poofters, and a bit of baseball thrown in.

List: Sky Lopez, Jennifer Lopez, and Elizabeth Shue...I'm like 'em spicy!

~Carson

GM-Carson said...

I just read an update on an unfortunate rumor I saw days ago- the Phils are looking at Rondell White. He's a shit-ass injury-riddled right-handed outfielder. Why the hell do we need him? We've already got Conine as pinch-hitting option #1 and 4th outfielder. We need a left-handed bat off the bench, not a to be 35 year old over-the-hill White.

~Carson