Friday, October 13, 2006

Phillies Phlashback Phridays: Tom Prince

I wish I were a MLB backup catcher. Seriously, they catch maybe 30 games a season and seem to hang around forever, sort of like a left-handed relief pitcher or a NFL place kicker. Some backup catchers are solid players that could start in another organization, but then there are the Sal Fasano's, Einar Diaz's, or Tom Prince's of the league. Tom "the Artist Formerly Known As" Prince managed to find an employer for 17 seasons...holy crap! His career high for games played in a season was 64...wow, now that's the life. Tom Prince, as you can tell by the accompanying baseball card was a Phucco (Phillie/Bucco), as he played with the Phils from 1999-2000. His career batting average was a stellar .208 with 24 homeruns and 140 rbi, but clubs obviously wanted him around for his intangibles (*wink *wink).
Next season we have a dish of a situation on our hands. Some crazy people want the oft-injured, unclutch, dinosaur of Mike Lieberthal to return to be the Phils backup catcher. I on the other hand am more than happy to start a new chapter of Phillies catchers. However, I'm not advocating going outside the organization to find a catcher via trade or free agency. Rather, we already have Chris "East vs. West" Coste and Carlos "Chooch" Ruiz. I'm willing to bet if you let them become a two-headed monster behind the dish next season, they'll have better than league average production. The Phillies need to use what assets they actually have from the farm system, and those two are examples of that.

"I never meant to cause you any sorrow, I never meant to cause you any pain, I only wanted to one time see you laughing, I only wanted to see you laughing in the purple rain. Purple rain purple rain." (Prince- Purple Rain)

~Carson

19 comments:

GM-Carson said...

Dammit- the Phils traded Bobby Scales was traded to the O's for future considerations. As some of you know, Cory and I are co-heads of the Bobby Scales fan club.

BenJah said...

i agree w/ your catching assessment. i hope gillick doesn't distract himself w/ backstops, just get us a 3 bagger w/ a bat and some pitching...any pitching

GM-Carson said...

Honestly, I don't think the Phils need too much tinkering. Keep the tandem of Coste/Ruiz at backstop, try to keep the same rotation that ended the season (Myers, Hamels, Lieber, Moyer, and Wolf). The only additions need to be a good hitting 3-bagger and some quality relief. I would absolutely love for Aramis Ramirez to be a Phillie next season, as he would solve so many problems.

~Carson

BloodStripes said...

I agree whole heartedly. Keep the tag team of Coste and Chooch and keep the rotation as it is. Those 7 players performed very well in '06 and really put it together in the back half. Unless of course Gillick can find an ace like Zito who wants to be a Phil, he should do it. Signing Ramirez for the hot corner is my off-seasons biggest wish.

BloodStripes said...

R.I.P Johnny Callison. A Phillie Legend!!!

GM-Carson said...

A-Ram may seem like a pipe dream, but him coming to Philly makes so much sense. I'm afraid we'll end up over-paying for Hank Blalock via trade (his numbers have been going down steadily). Joe Crede is another solid guy at 3rd, and we have Aaron Rowand to offer back to the ChiSox plus a prospect.

Zito and Schmidt are the 2 big free agent pitchers and I am 99.9% sure Zito wouldn't come to Philly and wouldn't do well in Philly. Schmidt is solid, but he has a history of injury and will be pricey. The Phils probably want Moyer back, but question is does Moyer want the Phils back.

GM-Carson said...

Unofficial Update- the "future considerations" from the O's to the Phils in return for Bobby Scales is none other than Miguel Tejada. *Damn that Pat Gillick is a smart guy, he just landed up our right-handed power hitting 3rd baseman for a minor league journey man.

*Didn't want to steal Gillick's kudos, but we here at WSBGM's suggested this is the player we get in return as it's obviously a fair value.

BloodStripes said...

Miguel Tejada....wow thats awesome. I hope it becomes offical. He had a great season hitting .330, 24HR, 100RBI. Another season like that at the plate would offer some REAL protection for Ryano. Thats above fair value. If it comes off its a top trade.

Maria said...

I like your nicknames for Coste & Ruiz.

That trade for Miguel Tejada...what a dream.

GM-Carson said...

Maria- "Chooch" was a nickname Ruiz got in the minors, not a WSBGM"s, but as you know we like to make nicknames up here such as "Model Dictator" for Fabio Castro. "Gas Can" for Geary, "East vs. West" Coste, "H-Mo" for David Bell, and others.

Miguel Tejada to Philly to play 3rd is a pipe dream!

By the way, if you hate the Yankees and feel like laughing, go check out my latest post on our other blog (More Hardball).

~Carson

dane said...

i think gillick is going to look to bring in johnny estrada from arizona. estrada got his start in philly and is a terrific defensive catcher. both ruiz and coste will still make the team but with coste playing more of a utility role than straight splitting catching duites

GM-Carson said...

Dane- I will be very upset if Gillick brings in a catcher that costs more money than the 2 we already have combined and who's offensive skills are vastly overrated. Ruiz/Coste would probably put up comparable #'s to Estrada, so no need to trade for him. Estrada is good defensively, but not that much better. Plus Coste/Ruiz have already been working with this group of pitchers which gives them the edge. I have heard this rumor before and prayed it wouldn't come true, because it's NOT what the Phillies need.

GM-Carson said...

Based on last week's poll, looks like Dougie Doug Glanville is fondly remembered in Philly...he is a UPENN grad and maybe he could get Mark DeRosa to come here on the cheap to play some 3rd.

GM-Carson said...

I was just over at Dane's blog and I came up with a fun idea- how about we do a WSBGM's fantasy baseball league next season? Shoot us an email or a comment if you'd be interested, the more the merrier!

dane said...

great idea

BloodStripes said...

I've never been in a fantasy league. I'd need a full run-down on what the go is but I'll give it a try.

GM-Carson said...

Well, it's decided. The 2007 season will have a WSBGM's fantasy team...don't worry BloodStripes- it's easy to understand, it'll make you love baseball even more.

BloodStripes said...

Excellent stuff DQ. Look forward to it.

Nice work with the Tejeda joke. I was thinking Baltimore are out of their minds to let him go, they must have some top backups.....and how many millions on top of Scales would we owe them if he were to go to Philly.

Vicous rumours! Good fun!

GM-Carson said...

"unofficial update" will signify a joke. "update" will be fore real.